Blacko Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: I think the casino and providers would have and I think they have looked into bandits play on Reel King. Loads of sites don't have the gamble feature on Reel King or just have a one or two step ladder gamble, pretty sure they would have thought about doing the same but then I think the casinos he plays at are just hoping the rtp will come into effect at somepoint, as I don't think they can see making their money back via any other slot or table game from him. At first I thought it was a glitch but then seen the martingale method behind the ladder gamble. He's a nice enough guy is the bandit but I think he should ditch the Reel King uploads as they are far too Degen. You have in the past refused to upload extremely high stake sessions you have had on roulette due to the knock on nature it has with a certain section of problem gamblers. I really don't see the point as most of Stevies viewers want to hear his wit whilst playing Goonies etc.., that's what he excels at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev40 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I've said many times the rtp on reel king is on the ladder. Anyone playing the game without gambling wins can expect an rtp of 80% max. If you think about it there's no bonus other than scrolls which usually pay 25x max. Other novomatics like captain venture ladys lucky charm dolphins pearl and so on pay in the bonus. That's where the rtp is. Reel king doesn't have this potential and that's why the providers won't tamper with the game as the players who don't use the gamble ladder will be losing quite heavily. People have been saying for 6 months they will change this game. I don't think they will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0tsh0t87 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: I think the casino and providers would have and I think they have looked into bandits play on Reel King. Loads of sites don't have the gamble feature on Reel King or just have a one or two step ladder gamble, pretty sure they would have thought about doing the same but then I think the casinos he plays at are just hoping the rtp will come into effect at somepoint, as I don't think they can see making their money back via any other slot or table game from him. You and I both know that there's some sort of safety net in place when bandit plays real king. It wouldn't surprise me if he had a promotion deal aswell with the provider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Blacko said: At first I thought it was a glitch but then seen the martingale method behind the ladder gamble. He's a nice enough guy is the bandit but I think he should ditch the Reel King uploads as they are far too Degen. You have in the past refused to upload extremely high stake sessions you have had on roulette due to the knock on nature it has with a certain section of problem gamblers. I really don't see the point as most of Stevies viewers want to hear his wit whilst playing Goonies etc.., that's what he excels at. It is a tough one and I guess comes down to personal opinion. I think it would be very easy for bandit to sack it off as there are some that don't enjoy it but also if he just plays what everyone wants him to play then maybe he will lose his motivation to play and make vids. I personally enjoy watching it as I could never play it like that, even though I know hes up on it I have no temptation to try it myself ha! I would say regardless of stakes people would be tempted by any win. I do have a couple of vids I've held back, not quite sure if I will upload or when but I also like to think people that watch my vids know the score with casino games and see them as just entertainment. I also think highlighting loss vids help, for example 4 out of my top 10 most viewed vids are loss videos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, h0tsh0t87 said: You and I both know that there's some sort of safety net in place when bandit plays real king. It wouldn't surprise me if he had a promotion deal aswell with the provider I've looked at it from every perspective but just can't see a provider as big as Novomatics risking the company over some reel king footage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUKHackz Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Do casinos worry about huge wins? Yes they do but when you open a casino you have to have a huge of amount of reserve funds and you also have an insurance policy. What if someone won a jackpot at a new casino? Progressive jackpots are paid for by the players and that pool of money is not even held at the casino, it's held by the providers, if you won 15 million mega moolah at a 1 day old casino they would be over the moon, it cost them nothing and you have just made the best advert they could possibly want! Reel king this, reel king that? Remember that the gamble feature on these games has a 100% RTP, it's not the same as the base game RTP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solario333 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Rocknrolla said: I think the casino and providers would have and I think they have looked into bandits play on Reel King. Loads of sites don't have the gamble feature on Reel King or just have a one or two step ladder gamble, pretty sure they would have thought about doing the same but then I think the casinos he plays at are just hoping the rtp will come into effect at somepoint, as I don't think they can see making their money back via any other slot or table game from him. The casinos have not lost money to the Bandit, the amounts of money he has lost are arbitrary to the amounts he has won. The casino is unhappy at paying out anyone, unless they know they can find an angle to limit the loss. The loss of course is just a few thousand less profit off Millions generated by the huge turnover that they encourage by having people like the Bandit advertising their products ,and obviously winning on the odd occasion. The bigger question remains : How much of the RTP is affected when the casino bankroll a player to play , and where does the innings go , since it is casino money ....??? Perhaps the Gaming Commission could look into that ..... its plan fraud. No individual should be pad by a casino to gamble . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Yes but Solario you don't always win on free play so you could also argue the reverse - that the free play 'losses' may help the real play RTP. It'll even itself out overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 @Blacko You ever thought about joining the Polis ? Feck me the Questions you ask lol Who are You ? . . . . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL4POSTER Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 17/06/2019 at 21:46, Solario333 said: The casinos have not lost money to the Bandit, the amounts of money he has lost are arbitrary to the amounts he has won. The casino is unhappy at paying out anyone, unless they know they can find an angle to limit the loss. The loss of course is just a few thousand less profit off Millions generated by the huge turnover that they encourage by having people like the Bandit advertising their products ,and obviously winning on the odd occasion. The bigger question remains : How much of the RTP is affected when the casino bankroll a player to play , and where does the innings go , since it is casino money ....??? Perhaps the Gaming Commission could look into that ..... its plan fraud. No individual should be pad by a casino to gamble . some sort of budgeting and cost benefit analysis is obviously done by the casino's, most likely monitored by an algorithm that abides by set rules 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_abrams Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I have always wondered about that. It also applies to insurance companies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLG_1988 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Novomatic will be no more soon.... They are being taken over along with Astra by Inspired Gaming if I am correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, MLG_1988 said: Novomatic will be no more soon.... They are being taken over along with Astra by Inspired Gaming if I am correct. They might be no more on some casinos in some countries but overall Novomatic are going nowhere mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLG_1988 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) Here you go...… https://inseinc.com/inspired-novomatic-acquisition/ Edited June 26, 2019 by MLG_1988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLG_1988 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Ahh... I've just reread it and its only for land based. Casino side of things will stay the same by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest centipede Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 the last time a casino proper worried was when @Miller26 was struck down with man flu for a couple of days. It was hit or miss whether thee loss of income would put them under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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