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On 11/09/2023 at 07:49, jokepoteer said:

Unfortunately all of this Curacao-based crypto gambling wil be going away in the next 6 months as the Curacao regulator is cracking down and requiring full KYC and effective blocking of UK/USA/NL players by operators, as a license condition.

Good while.it all lasted, but unless you are in a position to move countries just to play slots...  ouch.

all they ask for bill to prove you don't live in the UK, ID They still accept UK ID, Anyone can make a bill from any country and send it to the casino, Do you think they going to call Bank in Irland and ask if my bank statement is real lol 

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4 hours ago, Danger said:

I never said BJ was rigged. Butthurt ?  what are you 12 ?  wind your neck in kiddo. I said that one of the operators' card readers was clearly reading the cards before they came out of the shoe.   You would have got that had you bothered to watch the video Einstein.

Using a top level domain means nothing.  You cannot access stake.us from various states as local gambling laws do not allow it.  That includes Kentucky, New York, Nevada, Washington, and Idaho.

I have already given you examples of Regulators (KML) who pursue Curacao casinos targeting their residents.  You seem to be ignoring that.

And the reason casinos include a prohibited countries list is to avoid prosecution for offering services where it is prohibited.  It is clearly stated in their T&C's.  You are a prime example of the uneducated that end up moaning on forums about not being paid when you couldn't be bothered reading them.  Instead relying on a stupid mindset that you know better.  All of that VPN nonsense is in your head - they clearly state you cannot use a VPN.

Here's the crypto casino Rolla plays on

2.6. You must be residing in a jurisdiction where gambling is legal. You are not allowed to access the Website and/or register an account from a jurisdiction that prohibits online gambling and/or any other jurisdiction that the Central Government of Curacao deems online gambling illegal. k8.io also prohibits persons located in (including temporary visitors) or residents of Australia, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France and its territories, Netherlands and its territories, Saba, Spain, Statia, St Martin, United Kingdom, the USA and its territories. For the avoidance of doubt, registration from countries that do not feature on the dropdown options available at registration stage, is strictly prohibited.

18.5.1.3 Acceptance Policy

K8 will not accept and will block the users that:

• Provide fake identification documents.

Try to use different means to deceive about their location.

• Are from restricted or prohibited jurisdictions;

Here is Stake's T&C's

14.3 Persons located in or reside in Afghanistan, Australia, Belarus, Belgium, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, Curaçao, Czech Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania, Netherlands, North Korea, Ontario, Portugal, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, South Sudan, Spain, Sudan, Syria, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States, Zimbabwe (the "Prohibited Jurisdictions") are not permitted make use of the Service. For the avoidance of doubt, the foregoing restrictions on engaging in real-money play from Prohibited Jurisdictions applies equally to residents and citizens of other nations while located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction. Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on play by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction or Restricted Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating the information used by Stake to identify your location and providing Stake with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence.

14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.

 

 

 

I cant see Yorkshire on the list, coz Nickslots streams from Yorkshire on Stake Casino 😂

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4 hours ago, Danger said:

I never said BJ was rigged. Butthurt ?  what are you 12 ?  wind your neck in kiddo. I said that one of the operators' card readers was clearly reading the cards before they came out of the shoe.   You would have got that had you bothered to watch the video Einstein.

Using a top level domain means nothing.  You cannot access stake.us from various states as local gambling laws do not allow it.  That includes Kentucky, New York, Nevada, Washington, and Idaho.

I have already given you examples of Regulators (KML) who pursue Curacao casinos targeting their residents.  You seem to be ignoring that.

And the reason casinos include a prohibited countries list is to avoid prosecution for offering services where it is prohibited.  It is clearly stated in their T&C's.  You are a prime example of the uneducated that end up moaning on forums about not being paid when you couldn't be bothered reading them.  Instead relying on a stupid mindset that you know better.  All of that VPN nonsense is in your head - they clearly state you cannot use a VPN.

Here's the crypto casino Rolla plays on

2.6. You must be residing in a jurisdiction where gambling is legal. You are not allowed to access the Website and/or register an account from a jurisdiction that prohibits online gambling and/or any other jurisdiction that the Central Government of Curacao deems online gambling illegal. k8.io also prohibits persons located in (including temporary visitors) or residents of Australia, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France and its territories, Netherlands and its territories, Saba, Spain, Statia, St Martin, United Kingdom, the USA and its territories. For the avoidance of doubt, registration from countries that do not feature on the dropdown options available at registration stage, is strictly prohibited.

18.5.1.3 Acceptance Policy

K8 will not accept and will block the users that:

• Provide fake identification documents.

Try to use different means to deceive about their location.

• Are from restricted or prohibited jurisdictions;

Here is Stake's T&C's

14.3 Persons located in or reside in Afghanistan, Australia, Belarus, Belgium, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, Curaçao, Czech Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania, Netherlands, North Korea, Ontario, Portugal, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, South Sudan, Spain, Sudan, Syria, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States, Zimbabwe (the "Prohibited Jurisdictions") are not permitted make use of the Service. For the avoidance of doubt, the foregoing restrictions on engaging in real-money play from Prohibited Jurisdictions applies equally to residents and citizens of other nations while located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction. Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on play by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction or Restricted Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating the information used by Stake to identify your location and providing Stake with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence.

14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.

 

 

 

You clearly dont have a clue . Our russian oligarch on the forum that actually owns a crypto casino already told that you cannot get a licence for crypto casino and those curacao licenses are there just for show more or less and anyone can get it if you pay them. Thats why you have all the scam casinos on the curacao licence because they dont give a fuck.


K8 and Stake allows to play with VPN even if it is stated in TOS so you dont need to copy paste me this shit. Most of them have that in TOS but still allow the use of it. Clearly you dont play on cryptos but think you know it all about it.
 

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51 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said:

You clearly dont have a clue . Our russian oligarch on the forum that actually owns a crypto casino already told that you cannot get a licence for crypto casino and those curacao licenses are there just for show more or less and anyone can get it if you pay them. Thats why you have all the scam casinos on the curacao licence because they dont give a fuck.


K8 and Stake allows to play with VPN even if it is stated in TOS so you dont need to copy paste me this shit. Most of them have that in TOS but still allow the use of it. Clearly you dont play on cryptos but think you know it all about it.
 

After giving a detailed response your response is "You clearly dont have a clue".

I can see now that I have been engaging with an idiot, who despite being provided with evidence to the contrary of his outlandish and false claims wants to proceed with recommending crypto casinos on the basis of it'll be alright "VPN friendly" despite their T&C's telling you how you will be fisted if they catch you at that.

And that's exactly what will happen. As part of Curacao's acceptance of significant monies during Covid from the Dutch government, they undertook to reform this whole area of casino licensing meaning that they NOW are no longer allowed share or sub licence them and must have KYC and AML enforced as it will be audited. It came in 1/9/23.

Don't bother responding.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Danger said:

After giving a detailed response your response is "You clearly dont have a clue".

I can see now that I have been engaging with an idiot, who despite being provided with evidence to the contrary of his outlandish and false claims wants to proceed with recommending crypto casinos on the basis of it'll be alright "VPN friendly" despite their T&C's telling you how you will be fisted if they catch you at that.

And that's exactly what will happen. As part of Curacao's acceptance of significant monies during Covid from the Dutch government, they undertook to reform this whole area of casino licensing meaning that they NOW are no longer allowed share or sub licence them and must have KYC and AML enforced as it will be audited. It came in 1/9/23.

Don't bother responding.

 

 

They allow VPN and that is from my own experience and experience of all the UK players from this forum that can confirm that.  Keep copy pasting something you dont know shit about but keep telling me that crypto casinos dont allow VPN and the claims are false and outlandish.

 

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24 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said:

They allow VPN and that is from my own experience and experience of all the UK players from this forum that can confirm that.  Keep copy pasting something you dont know shit about but keep telling me that crypto casinos dont allow VPN and the claims are false and outlandish.

 

 

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2 hours ago, ISlot said:

BC gaming with UKGC license 😂 Is BC owned by Stake Casino?

BC Game is owned by BlockDance.

TGP Europe, is an intermediary company based in Douglas, Isle of Man.  Its a vehicle for White-label partnerships which is basically a licensed operator running a gambling business using the branding of another business - they've quite a few brands many of which you will see on football jerseys in the EPL.  They received a massive fine earlier this year for licence condition failings.

Not to be confused with the crytpo operators which are not licensed by UK GC.

 

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1 minute ago, Danger said:

BC Game is owned by BlockDance.

TGP Europe, is an intermediary company based in Douglas, Isle of Man.  Its a vehicle for White-label partnerships which is basically a licensed operator running a gambling business using the branding of another business - they've quite a few brands many of which you will see on football jerseys in the EPL.  They received a massive fine earlier this year for licence condition failings.

Not to be confused with the crytpo operators which are not licensed by UK GC.

 

they are the same ppl as crypto BC, I forgot to turn vpn got redirected to BC UK, and they doing the same thing Stake did, not sure f they copy Stake or they own by stake

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1 minute ago, ISlot said:

they are the same ppl as crypto BC, I forgot to turn vpn got redirected to BC UK, and they doing the same thing Stake did, not sure f they copy Stake or they own by stake

No.  Everything is through a white label operator TGP.  They are not the same site.  Crypto is a no no for a GC licence. 

PS I don't know what Casino you were attaching the support ticket from, but best of luck with using what a CS agent says if they close your account if you hit big buddy.

The majority of the big crypto ops have prohibited countries listed in their T&C's and specific conditions about circumventing geoblocking/VPN use.  The third layer is the game providers themselves who geoblock certain countries from game play.

 

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On 12/09/2023 at 10:33, Danger said:

I never said BJ was rigged. Butthurt ?  what are you 12 ?  wind your neck in kiddo. I said that one of the operators' card readers was clearly reading the cards before they came out of the shoe.   You would have got that had you bothered to watch the video Einstein.

Using a top level domain means nothing.  You cannot access stake.us from various states as local gambling laws do not allow it.  That includes Kentucky, New York, Nevada, Washington, and Idaho.

I have already given you examples of Regulators (KML) who pursue Curacao casinos targeting their residents.  You seem to be ignoring that.

And the reason casinos include a prohibited countries list is to avoid prosecution for offering services where it is prohibited.  It is clearly stated in their T&C's.  You are a prime example of the uneducated that end up moaning on forums about not being paid when you couldn't be bothered reading them.  Instead relying on a stupid mindset that you know better.  All of that VPN nonsense is in your head - they clearly state you cannot use a VPN.

Here's the crypto casino Rolla plays on

2.6. You must be residing in a jurisdiction where gambling is legal. You are not allowed to access the Website and/or register an account from a jurisdiction that prohibits online gambling and/or any other jurisdiction that the Central Government of Curacao deems online gambling illegal. k8.io also prohibits persons located in (including temporary visitors) or residents of Australia, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France and its territories, Netherlands and its territories, Saba, Spain, Statia, St Martin, United Kingdom, the USA and its territories. For the avoidance of doubt, registration from countries that do not feature on the dropdown options available at registration stage, is strictly prohibited.

18.5.1.3 Acceptance Policy

K8 will not accept and will block the users that:

• Provide fake identification documents.

Try to use different means to deceive about their location.

• Are from restricted or prohibited jurisdictions;

Here is Stake's T&C's

14.3 Persons located in or reside in Afghanistan, Australia, Belarus, Belgium, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, Curaçao, Czech Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania, Netherlands, North Korea, Ontario, Portugal, Serbia, Singapore, Slovakia, South Sudan, Spain, Sudan, Syria, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States, Zimbabwe (the "Prohibited Jurisdictions") are not permitted make use of the Service. For the avoidance of doubt, the foregoing restrictions on engaging in real-money play from Prohibited Jurisdictions applies equally to residents and citizens of other nations while located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction. Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on play by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction or Restricted Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating the information used by Stake to identify your location and providing Stake with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence.

14.4 The attempt to manipulate your real location through the use of VPN, proxy, or similar services or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence, with the intent to circumvent geo-blocking or jurisdiction restrictions, constitutes a breach of Clause 5 of this Terms of Service.

 

 

 

Those T&Cs may be there to avoid showing total disregard for locally regulated gambling laws for now, but as sure as night follows day they'll eventually be used to confiscate winnings from players once the gold rush calms down and hearts will be broken.

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On 12/09/2023 at 16:07, Danger said:

No.  Everything is through a white label operator TGP.  They are not the same site.  Crypto is a no no for a GC licence. 

PS I don't know what Casino you were attaching the support ticket from, but best of luck with using what a CS agent says if they close your account if you hit big buddy.

The majority of the big crypto ops have prohibited countries listed in their T&C's and specific conditions about circumventing geoblocking/VPN use.  The third layer is the game providers themselves who geoblock certain countries from game play.

 

I have played for over a year now and never had a payment problem on any crypto casino, on BC casino I cashout over $50k now,  I am fully verified on 2 casinos, Regards to BC google it without vpn see yourself, and you get redirected to the UK BC casino, VPN every casino let you play they may ask for KYC but that is an easy part 

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On 15/09/2023 at 10:06, ISlot said:

I have played for over a year now and never had a payment problem on any crypto casino, on BC casino I cashout over $50k now,  I am fully verified on 2 casinos, Regards to BC google it without vpn see yourself, and you get redirected to the UK BC casino, VPN every casino let you play they may ask for KYC but that is an easy part 

It does not matter what your experience to date has been.  If you are in a prohibited country, you are taking a huge risk that you will not get paid if they find out you are breaking their T&C's. This is heightened by the new arrangements that came into being for Curacao licensed casinos from 1/9/2023, which requires them to KYC customers. 

If you are getting redirected from BC.Game (the crytpo address) in UK without using a VPN to a UK website then it is behaving correctly.  You would not be able to deposit using crypto on a UK licensed casino  (can you ?  I seriously doubt it given the fines TGP have already racked up).  They are not the one and the same operation.  It is a white label partnership with TGP Europe with strict conditions.

 

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On 15/09/2023 at 06:25, PieGamble said:

Those T&Cs may be there to avoid showing total disregard for locally regulated gambling laws for now, but as sure as night follows day they'll eventually be used to confiscate winnings from players once the gold rush calms down and hearts will be broken.

For sure.

They also don't want to risk losing that flimsy and up to now badly regulated licence, which lets face it, is purely a mechanism to get the games from the igaming providers.  Take it away and......

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24 minutes ago, Danger said:

For sure.

They also don't want to risk losing that flimsy and up to now badly regulated licence, which lets face it, is purely a mechanism to get the games from the igaming providers.  Take it away and......

I've often thought that the providers themselves are hugely complicit in all this but seem to get off lightly. The thing about the providers is they are often based in territories where legal recourse is very doable. Imagine a situation where a publicly traded company like evolution suddenly finding itself on the end of a DoJ charge for facilitating illegal gambling. Something like that seems inevitable to me to be honest as I suspect every single person on this forum could find supporting evidence people aren't even trying to hide it. In the case of rolla he's actually going off to Ireland but 99% of the rest are not.

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6 hours ago, el_chupacabra said:

sorry for the late reply rolla.i havnt got my money yet.

 

the day after i posted a good friend of mine blew his head off tnlh.he had lost all his money on the site you promote and s.take.24 years old

 

casino affiliates are the scum off the earth,and fuck ye all

Really sorry to hear that @el_chupacabra - ufortunately it happens, especially when people see the big wins and think they can do the same.

I would usually say that there is help out there for people who have issues with gambling or places they can turn to for help, but it's all irrelevant now as no one gives a fuck anymore. 

Affiliates just want you signing uo, no matter how they try and spin it

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On 17/09/2023 at 12:35, Danger said:

For sure.

They also don't want to risk losing that flimsy and up to now badly regulated licence, which lets face it, is purely a mechanism to get the games from the igaming providers.  Take it away and......

It looks like the inevitable has started to happen. Seems like a few crypto casinos have suddenly found their KYC button and are using it dick UK players around for funds. That's a stress I definitely don't miss.

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2 hours ago, PieGamble said:

It looks like the inevitable has started to happen. Seems like a few crypto casinos have suddenly found their KYC button and are using it dick UK players around for funds. That's a stress I definitely don't miss.

Same here mate. I can't imagine playing somewhere and hoping not to win too big so you won't get noticed and not paid out

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1 hour ago, david1111 said:

The problem here is you're promoting wild West gambling where the negative effects can be devastating 

Agreed. And hiding behind any "responsible gaming" banner (e.g. Links to gam care, having a residence in ireland) is just sugar coating the shit. 

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21 hours ago, andywilliams11872 said:

Agreed. And hiding behind any "responsible gaming" banner (e.g. Links to gam care, having a residence in ireland) is just sugar coating the shit. 

Had a bit of a wobble last night. Had a few beers at the Rangers game and thought “ fuck it “ and deposited a ton with stake. After a few black coffees I changed my mind and decided to take the money back as it had been a bad idea. Stake instantly seen me as some sort of money launderer and refused withdrawals till I explained myself, after eventually explaining what had happened they sent my crypto to binance ( minus £7 fees ). After this binance keep coming up that there is problems with my debit card so I remove the details and enter them again.. then the bastards hit me with “ you have recently removed this card, wait 48 hours before trying again “. Fucking brutal.

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On 27/09/2023 at 13:06, PieGamble said:

It looks like the inevitable has started to happen. Seems like a few crypto casinos have suddenly found their KYC button and are using it dick UK players around for funds. That's a stress I definitely don't miss.

In some Crypto casinos is very easy to do KYC, whatever you send they not going to check if is real or not, they hire some companies to do their KYC so they can shut up licensed police 

I got verified in 1min last night I just uploaded doc next think you are verified 

 

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