Trialling Crypto Site

[VillaLad 8,416]

8 minutes ago, Kings lynn said:

Exactly. I can guarantee more people win on crypto casinos than what win on the Lotto and I don’t see people out for blood with that. 

But the lotto is a couple of quid every week not a couple of quid every 3 seconds 

[Jok3st3r 12,584]

Proper streamer on 

https://m.twitch.tv/richiefm

 

 

Edited May 26 by Jok3st3r

[howfin 4,924]

Im disgusted and will no longer watch your streams.

 

 

 

 

 

Only kidding sweetheart. I went to crypto myself a year or so ago as i was getting SoW'd for a few hundred quid deposits. Ive never had any problems to date, but of course that doesn't mean the next withdraw wont be different. Being honest i'm always extremely anxious waiting for a withdraw to be approved. Perhaps you could contact whatever one you decide to sign up with and ask for a deal. That way you might not get fucked. Id imagine you'd have to promote them then though so maybe not. Either way as long as you're using your own money, which im sure you will, most people probably wont care too much.

[ISlot 1,129]

Best of Luck @Rocknrolla

Welcome to Crypto gambling 

 

 

Edited May 27 by ISlot

[hellakytta 187]

@Rocknrolla How bout little sneaky friday JP chase stream? If you have free night today 

Edited May 27 by hellakytta

[Solario333 11,488]

Regardless of the obvious difficulties we as gamblers now face ,it is the oppression of bureaucracy that has forced our options to narrow and deliver solutions that meet our current needs . The UKGC has castrated our free will and defamed our principles of choice . we cannot move or apply our pastimes without unnecessary interference .  

We haven't voted for stringent regulation but clearly gambling does and can destroy lives and families ....... thus now we must generate  the responsible solution  - for some crypto will free up a chance to gamble , for others it will deliver even more debt , more lies , more misery , but ultimately the choice is for each individual and in @Rocknrolla we see an individual who has great experience in gambling and the charisma to show others the pitfalls  of gung ho style stakes, and benefits of restraint .  So I endorse the opportunity to verify whether crypto sites can  responsibly  meet our demands and look forward to the streams .  I will not be watching any other crypto streamer . 

Edited May 27 by Solario333

[MrUKHackz 14,958]

3 hours ago, hellakytta said:

@Rocknrolla How bout little sneaky friday JP chase stream? If you have free night today 

Its Saturday mate! 

[Andymitzy 697]

i think you should go for it. i agree it’s not good for some people and they will follow ur lead…but surely these same people know about crypto anyway and if they don’t they will, with or without u. also i do feel most of the people against this (not all) would snatch there hands off for a fee if in the same position. 

its  easy to say it’s wrong and immoral etc when u don’t have the choice to do it urself. 

id do it 100% for my family if i was you. 

at the end of the day if it helps u and ur family then they take priority in my eyes. 

 

[VillaLad 8,416]

14 hours ago, MrUKHackz said:

Its Saturday mate! 

There were on about 3 weeks Friday 🥸

[Danger 26]

On 26/05/2023 at 14:29, Rocknrolla said:

There's a number of ways to do it but the deal I'm looking at is to stream/make videos in return for deposit bonuses and a fee. I also wouldn't be using a vpn so would have to travel to do it.
 

I am a little confused as in recent times you haven't been pushing any affiliation and I was of the opinion that you are gambling for yourself. 

Who is your target market and what are your aims ?

If it's as a business, then you are talking wholesale changes to your own life which probably includes the word Malta .  If not, then its a way of circumvention of UK GC rules to continue as is.   So which is it ?

Eitherway,  Crytpo is the nuclear option. Are you going to be happy pushing it ?  (for the fee and deposit bonus).  

Lets be blunt - Crypto casinos bypass every type of verification and responsible gambling safety nets possible.  That's why they are illegal to UK residents.  Whilst the end result might be different for a streamer, words like "VPN friendly" mean nothing when someone wins big.  Sign ups will get shafted.  This is the murky world you are talking about. 

What do the crytpo casinos expect in return ?  I assume brand identification which will certainly affect your ability to stream on legit streaming platforms from the UK.  You don't want to be on the Stake owned Kick, do you ?

Ireland is only a very short term option.  We have a new Regulator and we are going to adopt GC Rules unfortunately quite possibly by end of this year (meaning the businesses currently bypassing age gating and pushing traffic for UK sign ups will have to move to Malta).

Before going down this road, you should pursue those limited legit options left.  I don't believe you have been rigorous enough.    The group that the Welsh lad convinced to give him matched deposit bonuses should be your main consideration.  He has 85k subscribers.   Mr V/Vslots obviously saw this and their top man is a poker player and gambler.  It was a shrewd biz move, but it may not last long.  You have over 100k in subs between Twitch & Youtube.  Seems like you need a marketing manager and it wont need to be a good one to get something similar.   And at least its legit.          

 

 

[Rocknrolla 5,384]

22 hours ago, hellakytta said:

@Rocknrolla How bout little sneaky friday JP chase stream? If you have free night today 

Kids, kids and kids bockers

[Rocknrolla 5,384]

3 hours ago, Danger said:

I am a little confused as in recent times you haven't been pushing any affiliation and I was of the opinion that you are gambling for yourself. 

Who is your target market and what are your aims ?

If it's as a business, then you are talking wholesale changes to your own life which probably includes the word Malta .  If not, then its a way of circumvention of UK GC rules to continue as is.   So which is it ?

Eitherway,  Crytpo is the nuclear option. Are you going to be happy pushing it ?  (for the fee and deposit bonus).  

Lets be blunt - Crypto casinos bypass every type of verification and responsible gambling safety nets possible.  That's why they are illegal to UK residents.  Whilst the end result might be different for a streamer, words like "VPN friendly" mean nothing when someone wins big.  Sign ups will get shafted.  This is the murky world you are talking about. 

What do the crytpo casinos expect in return ?  I assume brand identification which will certainly affect your ability to stream on legit streaming platforms from the UK.  You don't want to be on the Stake owned Kick, do you ?

Ireland is only a very short term option.  We have a new Regulator and we are going to adopt GC Rules unfortunately quite possibly by end of this year (meaning the businesses currently bypassing age gating and pushing traffic for UK sign ups will have to move to Malta).

Before going down this road, you should pursue those limited legit options left.  I don't believe you have been rigorous enough.    The group that the Welsh lad convinced to give him matched deposit bonuses should be your main consideration.  He has 85k subscribers.   Mr V/Vslots obviously saw this and their top man is a poker player and gambler.  It was a shrewd biz move, but it may not last long.  You have over 100k in subs between Twitch & Youtube.  Seems like you need a marketing manager and it wont need to be a good one to get something similar.   And at least its legit.          

 

 

Always gambling for myself and like you said never pushed affiliation and that will never change

Target market and aims is something I have never thought about

It will probably be big changes but again until I actually do the trials I have no idea what it entails but yeh if I do it the right way would mean Ireland or Malta for when I stream/make videos

I won't be pushing it, like all my other streams

I dont really know what they expect in return its all just at the thought stage at the moment but from the one I've spoken to it would just involve their logo on the streams/vids

My options are extremely limited if they can even be considered options, I'm not exploring this option lightly 

[4houghts 6,029]

I don't see the moral dilemma

The 'Licenced' uk casinos are a bunch of wild west robbers & ban anyone/go to all lengths to not pay out winnings  

I don't know why people defend them like they are the holy grail of responsible gambling 

 

[Lozzarozza 1]

Joined just to chime in on this.  I think crypto would be an okay route but I just think that no promotion of any sites should happen and you should only ever show the games and not the names of the sites, mainly because I don’t think they should be promoted to GameStop folk.

[Kings lynn 184]

This thread just just shows you have the support of the vast majority @Rocknrolla

I think you’ve made the right choice & for one can’t wait for the streams. 

bring on Malta! Hopefully a few vlogs in the pipeline too. 

 

 

[Kings lynn 184]

6 minutes ago, Lozzarozza said:

Joined just to chime in on this.  I think crypto would be an okay route but I just think that no promotion of any sites should happen and you should only ever show the games and not the names of the sites, mainly because I don’t think they should be promoted to GameStop folk.

If people on gamstop want to find the crypto casinos they will whether the name is on screen or not. At the end of the day if you’re watching a gambling channel you have to know you’re going to be exposed to Gambling names & links. 

[VillaLad 8,416]

6 minutes ago, Lozzarozza said:

mainly because I don’t think they should be promoted to GameStop folk.

Do you really believe people on gamstop etc don’t know about crypto sites I’d be happy to place a bet saying the vast majority do. And these people need to take responsibility for there own actions, gambling addicts will find a way to gamble wether they are on gamstop or not. All I hear is there’s no safety net for players yes I agree but on the other hand rolla will be taking a chance too, for me if I thought there was a chance a casino wouldn’t pay out then I’m not gonna play there so it’s upto people to make there own choices and take whatever happens on the chin.

[Guest Fudge]

12 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

Do you really believe people on gamstop etc don’t know about crypto sites I’d be happy to place a bet saying the vast majority do. And these people need to take responsibility for there own actions, gambling addicts will find a way to gamble wether they are on gamstop or not. All I hear is there’s no safety net for players yes I agree but on the other hand rolla will be taking a chance too, for me if I thought there was a chance a casino wouldn’t pay out then I’m not gonna play there so it’s upto people to make there own choices and take whatever happens on the chin.

It's one thing to know about something and another being shoved in your face. That's why I would advise anyone struggling with gambling addiction to not be part of it. I think the streams and this forum will become toxic place for people that are on gamstop.

[david1111 18,100]

8 minutes ago, Fudge said:

It's one thing to know about something and another being shoved in your face. That's why I would advise anyone struggling with gambling addiction to not be part of it. I think the streams and this forum will become toxic place for people that are on gamstop.

One thing that is becoming evident is that crypto sites are taking over and as I have said before I blame the ukgc for over restricting the UK market.

Gamstop is basically floored now because of the crypto boom.

We have to remember though that this is a gambling site so anyone entering will know what to expect. 

We will always try to help people who need help but you can't be on a gambling site and expect to be wrapped in cotton wool.

 

 

 

[Guest Fudge]

7 minutes ago, david1111 said:

One thing that is becoming evident is that crypto sites are taking over and as I have said before I blame the ukgc for over restricting the UK market.

Gamstop is basically floored now because of the crypto boom.

We have to remember though that this is a gambling site so anyone entering will know what to expect. 

We will always try to help people who need help but you can't be on a gambling site and expect to be wrapped in cotton wool.

 

 

 

This forum and streams have always been about responsible gambling, but I can see that the mood is shifting and it's fine. The ironic thing is that I doubt rolla himself would be able to gamble responsibly on crypto if it wasn't for his missus.

[philinvicta 11,269]

1 minute ago, david1111 said:

One thing that is becoming evident is that crypto sites are taking over and as I have said before I blame the ukgc for over restricting the UK market.

Gamstop is basically floored now because of the crypto boom.

We have to remember though that this is a gambling site so anyone entering will know what to expect. 

We will always try to help people who need help but you can't be on a gambling site and expect to be wrapped in cotton wool.

 

 

 

People know this is  a gambling site  and if they want  to go gambling there then they must take the consequences because one thing is for sure these site will do nothing to help you.  

Remember we had a thread on this site about the so called reputable and big site  that allowed a soldier to lose 2 million dollars in less than 3 hours.   

Having seen some of the problems that people have posted on here even with UK restrictions I do not expect it to be long before someone comes on saying they have lost all their money and maxed out their credit cards and overdrafts.

I have no worries because I have managed to cop on  a little after 35 years and it is not a route I will be going down personally.  Luckily I also have UK sites that I play on with no trouble and at levels I am happy with. 

Anyways I do not want to be around when all of this starts so I will say Bon Voyage to everyone.

[philinvicta 11,269]

1 minute ago, Fudge said:

This forum and streams have always been about responsible gambling, but I can see that the mood is shifting and it's fine. The ironic thing is that I doubt rolla himself would be able to gamble responsibly on crypto if it wasn't for his missus.

Except he will not have credit limits on there to stop him going mad if he goes on tilt. He really will have to agree with his mrs that he has no access to  the money to lose it

[david1111 18,100]

3 minutes ago, Fudge said:

This forum and streams have always been about responsible gambling

Yes it has which I have also mentioned and that's the reason rolla is in a kind of dilemma because he has morals which most streamers dont

[Guest Fudge]

7 minutes ago, david1111 said:

Yes it has which I have also mentioned and that's the reason rolla is in a kind of dilemma because he has morals which most streamers dont

Well, it no longer will be because you can't promote crypto gambling sites and claim responsible gambling at the same time. Most of us here have used self exclusion and other tools that help us control our gambling, including yourself. These tools don't really exist with crypto.

[david1111 18,100]

4 minutes ago, Fudge said:

Well, it no longer will be because you can't promote crypto gambling sites and claim responsible gambling at the same time. Most of us here have used self exclusion and other tools that help us control our gambling, including yourself. These tools don't really exist with crypto.

Yeah I understand that. It will be a complete u turn