1pstaker 12,378 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: Yes and no. There are stable coins worth 1:1 to dollar that you can use. You can also play in other coins of course and in that case it does fluctuate. That js because people that are clueless are buying coins with credit card or what ever or they use or play with non stable coins. Streamers usually play in stable coins so the balance is exactly the same. Also if you transfer it directly from crypto wallet you will get the amount you want and will take the fee off the wallet balance which is not the case if you buyin it directly from the crypto casinos 3d party deposit options. Thanks for clarifying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VillaLad 8,416 Posted May 26 @Rocknrolla do whatever is best for your family. I don’t understand why people would blame you for losing money, your basically an advertisement and if people lose money it’s there own fault. If someone watched a virgin airways advert and then decided to book a flight and it got cancelled or delayed do these people contact itv because that’s where they saw the ad no they wouldn’t. Gamblers will find a way to gamble if they want to no matter what there signed up to gamstop etc, just look how many posts we’ve seen on here over the years with people using someone else’s card and when we start asking questions it always comes out there in the wrong yet in there original post there blaming the casino. Regarding crypto casinos personally I wouldn’t have a clue where to begin and it will stay that way, I’ve been a member here from day 1 and I’ve never clicked and signed up to one of your suggested sites, there would have been people who have joined them all, everyone is different. Personally again I don’t like to watch when you go full degen I don’t know why it’s not my money so why should I care, and there’s people in the streams who love to see you spunk the lot, to me these people are complete bellends. Ive met some great people off this forum and we have a good laugh most days there are some proper funny people on here and some very knowledgeable ones too it will be a shame to see it go. At the end of the day you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted May 26 1 hour ago, The_Guests said: You should post more often @Rocknrolla, this is the busiest the forum has been since the crunchie days Ah we all miss the crunchie comps. Nice to enter but bugger all chance of winning 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 These are some of the FTX sponsorships deals ( remember they went from a 32 billion valuation to zero!) https://www.businessinsider.com/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-sports-partnerships-tom-brady-miami-heat-2022-11?r=US&IR=T#ftx-even-invested-in-a-formula-one-racing-team-called-mercedes-amg-petronas-11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Chair Slots Posted May 26 55 minutes ago, The_Guests said: hypa has streamed a good few times over the last few weeks, how come you are having so many issues with playing and he doesn't appear to be right now? hes still making it work currently and doing his own thing Hypa is low rolling. Rolla doesn’t want to low roll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,589 Posted May 26 (edited) 31 minutes ago, philinvicta said: Why is it that all of a sudden that these Crypto casinos which everyone thought should be avoided are now thought to be respectable. Because the bigger ones like the one that starts with S took over the industry basically and dont need to scam anyone no matter the money you want to cash out in an instant. At this point other than gamstop and not having to do sow checks there is 0 difference from any ither UKGC casino. If anything UKGC casino will make you go through a lot more hoops and delay cashout payments if there is a bigger chunk in question. As dumb as it sounds they evolved in that view. Edited May 26 by crazyrightmeow 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VillaLad 8,416 Posted May 26 4 minutes ago, david1111 said: Ah we all miss the crunchie comps. Nice to enter but bugger all chance of winning Your still a bellend though David 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted May 26 Just now, VillaLad said: Your still a bellend though David I've been waiting for that. Surprised it took you so long 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, VillaLad said: @Rocknrolla do whatever is best for your family. I don’t understand why people would blame you for losing money, your basically an advertisement and if people lose money it’s there own fault. If someone watched a virgin airways advert and then decided to book a flight and it got cancelled or delayed do these people contact itv because that’s where they saw the ad no they wouldn’t. Gamblers will find a way to gamble if they want to no matter what there signed up to gamstop etc, just look how many posts we’ve seen on here over the years with people using someone else’s card and when we start asking questions it always comes out there in the wrong yet in there original post there blaming the casino. Regarding crypto casinos personally I wouldn’t have a clue where to begin and it will stay that way, I’ve been a member here from day 1 and I’ve never clicked and signed up to one of your suggested sites, there would have been people who have joined them all, everyone is different. Personally again I don’t like to watch when you go full degen I don’t know why it’s not my money so why should I care, and there’s people in the streams who love to see you spunk the lot, to me these people are complete bellends. Ive met some great people off this forum and we have a good laugh most days there are some proper funny people on here and some very knowledgeable ones too it will be a shame to see it go. At the end of the day you’ve gotta do what’s best for you and your family. The point is that all of the current sites listed for joining on the site are regulated these new sites are unlikely to be to such an extent he could actually have to leave the country to play on them. There are reps on here who can be contacted to help with problems I doubt if these new sites will do any more than give people the run around. I agree that people are responsible for themselves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VillaLad 8,416 Posted May 26 Just now, david1111 said: I've been waiting for that. Surprised it took you so long Took me about 45 mins to type that post on here I forgot 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, VillaLad said: Took me about 45 mins I can hear your wife saying, if only 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 4 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: Because the bigger ones like the one that starts with S took over the industry basically and dont need to scam anyone no matter the money you want to cash out in an instant. At this point other than gamstop and not having to do sow checks there is 0 difference from any ither UKGC casino. If anything UKGC casino will make you go through a lot more hoops and delay cashout payments if there is a bigger chunk in question. As dumb as it sounds they evolved in that view. The point is that they are not legal for UK players to play on and thus the fact they are enticing UK players shows they are not reputable in my opinion. Same thing happened in the US with European bookmkakers allowing US players to bet even though it was against their laws. Some of their executives even got arrested when they landed on US soil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VillaLad 8,416 Posted May 26 1 minute ago, philinvicta said: agree that people are responsible for themselves. This is the thing Phil nowadays everyone wants to blame someone else for there own actions and for me anyway I’m not having it. If I went and lost 10k tomorrow on slots I’d have done that because I wanted to not because I watched a streamer the day before, it’s just a cheap get out clause 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aarongeorge1989 781 Posted May 26 Hopefully the people who don’t fully understand crypto casinos will see when Rolla starts streaming that they can be just as reputable as ukgc casinos and the streams keep the lights on in the Rolla house hold and this site. no one wants to see this forum shut down and have to see @MrUKHackz go back to working at Hooters. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VillaLad 8,416 Posted May 26 1 minute ago, Aarongeorge1989 said: no one wants to see this forum shut down and have to see @MrUKHackz go back to working at Hooters. Is his head one of the tits 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 Just now, VillaLad said: This is the thing Phil nowadays everyone wants to blame someone else for there own actions and for me anyway I’m not having it. If I went and lost 10k tomorrow on slots I’d have done that because I wanted to not because I watched a streamer the day before, it’s just a cheap get out clause The point is a lot of these big stars in the US that took the sponsorship money and promoted FTX are now being issued with class action lawsuits by people that lost money.. Even Kim Kardashian got fine for promoting Cryptocurrency , She got paid 250k for promoting it on an Instagram post and then fined 1.3 million https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/03/investing/kim-kardashian-sec-fine/index.html It is not just a case of taking the money and playing you need to be very sure of what you are expected to say and do on their behalf. Not everyone says I lost it and it is my fault Anyway Rolla is a big boy and can make his own decisions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,589 Posted May 26 8 minutes ago, philinvicta said: The point is that they are not legal for UK players to play on and thus the fact they are enticing UK players shows they are not reputable in my opinion. Same thing happened in the US with European bookmkakers allowing US players to bet even though it was against their laws. Some of their executives even got arrested when they landed on US soil. Yes I understand your prespective mate. I look more from the point that they will pay you out and for me that is all that matters. I think majority of the people dont give a flying fudge if gov. doesnt get a cut from them and thats the only reason why is not legal. That did happened yes, you are right. They were not as smart to open and operate a company in a country where they cant be touched, at least for now anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 31 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: That js because people that are clueless are buying coins with credit card or what ever or they use or play with non stable coins. Streamers usually play in stable coins so the balance is exactly the same. Also if you transfer it directly from crypto wallet you will get the amount you want and will take the fee off the wallet balance which is not the case if you buyin it directly from the crypto casinos 3d party deposit options. Would those 3rd party deposit actions allow deposits by credit cards ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,589 Posted May 26 (edited) 1 minute ago, philinvicta said: Would those 3rd party deposit actions allow deposits by credit cards ? Yes the do and fees are big, so not worth using. You basically buy crypto with credit card and is then transfered to a casino. Edited May 26 by crazyrightmeow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: Yes I understand your prespective mate. I look more from the point that they will pay you out and for me that is all that matters. I think majority of the people dont give a flying fudge if gov. doesnt get a cut from them and thats the only reason why is not legal. That did happened yes, you are right. They were not as smart to open and operate a company in a country where they cant be touched, at least for now anyway. You have to remember I also do not live in the UK so the UKGC does not affect me other than certain things I have to do with accounts I have. I think a lot of people forget that much of this regulation stems not just from player protection but also from EU money laundering regulations so these online casinos whether they are FIAT or Crypto still have to abide by those rules. If they want to avoid all that they need to run to places with little regulation or protection for players such as our old friend Curacao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,589 Posted May 26 1 minute ago, philinvicta said: You have to remember I also do not live in the UK so the UKGC does not affect me other than certain things I have to do with accounts I have. I think a lot of people forget that much of this regulation stems not just from player protection but also from EU money laundering regulations so these online casinos whether they are FIAT or Crypto still have to abide by those rules. If they want to avoid all that they need to run to places with little regulation or protection for players such as our old friend Curacao. I dont know how they operate their business or how that works with crypto casinos companies in general. Im sure with the money they are making they have the best lawyers helping them out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted May 26 (edited) 1 minute ago, crazyrightmeow said: I dont know how they operate their business or how that works with crypto casinos companies in general. Im sure with the money they are making they have the best lawyers helping them out. Remember the money they are making somebody else is losing Surely you know where the casino you play on is registered ? Edited May 26 by philinvicta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,589 Posted May 26 Just now, philinvicta said: Remember the money they are making somebody else is losing Of course mate I am aware, but no different from any other casino or even wall street etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kings lynn 184 Posted May 26 6 minutes ago, philinvicta said: Remember the money they are making somebody else is losing This has been the case for every casino online or landbased long before crypto came along mate. They are a business at the end of the day, crypto or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kings lynn 184 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: Of course mate I am aware, but no different from any other casino or even wall street etc. Exactly. I can guarantee more people win on crypto casinos than what win on the Lotto and I don’t see people out for blood with that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites