Trialling Crypto Site

[Guest Fudge]

11 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

You can’t expect rolla to take the blame if someone does there bollocks gambling.

I don't, but I think it's going to be on his mind anyways.

[david1111]

40 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

It’s not really being shoved in peoples faces though is it mate they are not being forced to watch it, as I said in an earlier post I’ve never joined a site rolla has used just cause I watched the stream don’t mean I have to do it it’s personal choice. You can’t expect rolla to take the blame if someone does there bollocks gambling.

I think you have to be thick skinned to be a streamer.

Fact is if someone does do their bollocks in by following rolla they will blame him and with the crypto sites there will be absolutely no recourse whatsoever. 

If you watched rollas recent video he said he got blamed by people losing on roulette by trying to replicate him.

I guess it comes with the territory, but you have to be comfortable with what you are doing

 

Edited May 29, 2023 by david1111

[VillaLad]

7 minutes ago, david1111 said:

If you watched rollas recent video he said he got blamed by people losing on roulette by trying to replicate him.

That’s there own fault David 

Yes we would all love some of the big wins rolla has had over the years but we’ve also seen the heavy losing sessions. For someone to try n replicate what he does is just daft these people are probably depositing £800 and whacking it all on in one spin and losing and then come crying cause “if it worked for him then why didn’t it work for me” 

I put it down to the next generation of people these people have no clue about gambling or even life in general they have had everything given to them on a plate had no discipline can’t even be a loser at sports day they all get medals they’ve been taught they can’t lose, well unfortunately you can lose and it’s by losing you learn some harsh truths about life unfortunately we live in a society where it’s always someone else’s fault.

[david1111]

1 minute ago, VillaLad said:

That’s there own fault David 

Yes we would all love some of the big wins rolla has had over the years but we’ve also seen the heavy losing sessions. For someone to try n replicate what he does is just daft these people are probably depositing £800 and whacking it all on in one spin and losing and then come crying cause “if it worked for him then why didn’t it work for me” 

I put it down to the next generation of people these people have no clue about gambling or even life in general they have had everything given to them on a plate had no discipline can’t even be a loser at sports day they all get medals they’ve been taught they can’t lose, well unfortunately you can lose and it’s by losing you learn some harsh truths about life unfortunately we live in a society where it’s always someone else’s fault.

I don't disagree with that, but I was purely stating a fact that he will probably get a lot of stick and its how he deals with it.

If it was a case that he wasn't bothered,this thread wouldn't exist and he would just go ahead

[VillaLad]

1 minute ago, david1111 said:

If it was a case that he wasn't bothered,this thread wouldn't exist and he would just go ahead

I completely get that David 

As @crazyrightmeow said earlier he could be set for life from a deal he could get, I don’t watch many streamers but know loads are playing with the casinos money not there own this is what pisses me off so I don’t watch these clowns, we know rolla plays with his own money that’ll do for me we’ve all seen his reactions to big wins and the terrible losses and we as a whole can relate to those emotions. Maybe putting something on stream saying please don’t try and replicate my style of gambling as it can cause heavy losses gamble at your own risk.

He is 100% real and this is where his dilemma is, I’ve said over the years on here when people asking to prove this n that to tell them to fuck off wtf has what he earns got to do with anyone else, again clowns who have never been told no asking these questions. He HAS to do whatever is right for himself and his family, if he can’t gamble the way he wants on uk sites he’s got no other option 

[VillaLad]

32 minutes ago, Fudge said:

I don't, but I think it's going to be on his mind anyways.

It would have always been on his mind if that’s the case mate 

[david1111]

37 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

I completely get that David 

As @crazyrightmeow said earlier he could be set for life from a deal he could get, I don’t watch many streamers but know loads are playing with the casinos money not there own this is what pisses me off so I don’t watch these clowns, we know rolla plays with his own money that’ll do for me we’ve all seen his reactions to big wins and the terrible losses and we as a whole can relate to those emotions. Maybe putting something on stream saying please don’t try and replicate my style of gambling as it can cause heavy losses gamble at your own risk.

He is 100% real and this is where his dilemma is, I’ve said over the years on here when people asking to prove this n that to tell them to fuck off wtf has what he earns got to do with anyone else, again clowns who have never been told no asking these questions. He HAS to do whatever is right for himself and his family, if he can’t gamble the way he wants on uk sites he’s got no other option 

Thing is though mate he could have already been set up for life by taking previous deals which he declined.

That takes some doing so it's obviously a huge personal decision for him to make

Edited May 29, 2023 by david1111

[Guest Fudge]

34 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

It would have always been on his mind if that’s the case mate 

Not quite, because he has always tried his best to promote Gamban and other tools. This would go the opposite of what he has always said about crypto gambling.

 

Edited May 29, 2023 by Fudge

[Aarongeorge1989]

2 hours ago, Fudge said:

Not quite, because he has always tried his best to promote Gamban and other tools. This would go the opposite of what he has always said about crypto gambling.

 

He still will try to promote sensible gambling while on crypto mate, he’s not going to start up every stream and say ‘ now you’re all here sign up to my casino and do your bollocks in’

he will be the first to let people know the risks that come with crypto gambling the same way he always has with the risks U.K. based casino’s bring. 

But at the end of the day people have to take responsibility for their own choices and if they do choose to go crypto that’s on them not Rolla. 

[Guest Fudge]

14 minutes ago, Aarongeorge1989 said:

But at the end of the day people have to take responsibility for their own choices and if they do choose to go crypto that’s on them not Rolla. 

That's such a simplistic way of looking at things. Of course gamblers have to take responsibility for their own actions, but without affiliates and ads there would be 90% less of them. If I tell my friend that I made shit ton of money doing leveraged crypto trading and he should be doing that too, do I not share any responsibility at all?

There are a lot of gullible people, a lot of people with fucked up brain chemistry that get hooked on addictive stuff and have 0 control over themselves. How many people have killed themselves over gambling because they couldn't stop? I don't think they had free will and ability to take responsibility for their actions.

Crypto casinos became really popular only after streamers and celebrities started heavily promoting them. Do they really share no responsibility at all? If that's the case then why do we even have self exclusions, deposit limits etc. Lets all play on crypto casino that doesn't have any of those, because in the end it's only our own responsibility to not lose too much.

Apparently UK gov thinks they do share responsibility to protect their citizens and they do the best they can. Maybe it takes away too much freedom at the moment, but at least they are trying and I believe it will get better. Online gambling is still new all things considered.

[Aarongeorge1989]

16 minutes ago, Fudge said:

If I tell my friend that I made shit ton of money doing leveraged crypto trading and he should be doing that too, do I not share any responsibility at all?

 

I’ve been watching Rolla pretty much since he started streaming and at no point have I ever seen him look at the camera and say

“Look how much I’ve just won on roulette, get yourself on this casino and load up Tier and you will be cashing out in no time”

 

[Aarongeorge1989]

21 minutes ago, Fudge said:

If that's the case then why do we even have self exclusions, deposit limits etc. Lets all play on crypto casino that doesn't have any of those

But Crypto casinos do have deposit limits mate.
 

It’s misinformation like this that is why people think crypto gambling is still dangerous ground. I’m sure there are many very dodgy crypto casino’s but I could equally find you the same amount if not more non crypto casinos that are just as dodgy. 
 

On the major crypto sites you have deposit limits, loss limits, ID checks. The only thing you don’t have is gamstop. 

[Guest Fudge]

8 minutes ago, Aarongeorge1989 said:

I’ve been watching Rolla pretty much since he started streaming and at no point have I ever seen him look at the camera and say

“Look how much I’ve just won on roulette, get yourself on this casino and load up Tier and you will be cashing out in no time”

 

Where did I write that rolla does this? If he did then I wouldn't even bother writing here. I only wrote it as simplistic example that responsibility is more complex than you think. There are streamers that only post winning videos and inexperienced people might believe that these wins happen more often than it actually does. I think they share some responsibility for driving traffic to casinos.

[Aarongeorge1989]

2 minutes ago, Fudge said:

Where did I write that rolla does this? If he did then I wouldn't even bother writing here. I only wrote it as simplistic example that responsibility is more complex than you think. There are streamers that only post winning videos and inexperienced people might believe that these wins happen more often than it actually does. I think they share some responsibility for driving traffic to casinos.

But this whole thread is about Rolla streaming crypto, not other streamers.  
 

We all know there are other streamers playing with fake money and pushing links no one is denying that. The best way to deal with this is simply not watch them. 

 

 

[Guest Fudge]

16 minutes ago, Aarongeorge1989 said:

But Crypto casinos do have deposit limits mate.
 

It’s misinformation like this that is why people think crypto gambling is still dangerous ground. I’m sure there are many very dodgy crypto casino’s but I could equally find you the same amount if not more non crypto casinos that are just as dodgy. 
 

On the major crypto sites you have deposit limits, loss limits, ID checks. The only thing you don’t have is gamstop. 

What is the point of deposit limits, loss limits, etc. if within minutes I can just sign up at different casino that doesn't have those things and are just as trustworthy to pay out?

[Aarongeorge1989]

1 minute ago, Fudge said:

What is the point of deposit limits, loss limits, etc. if within minutes I can just sign up at different casino that doesn't have those things and are just as trustworthy to pay out?

You tell me.. Why do ukgc casinos have deposit limits & loss limits then? 

[Guest Fudge]

1 minute ago, Aarongeorge1989 said:

You tell me.. Why do ukgc casinos have deposit limits & loss limits then? 

Government, laws.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Fudge

[Aarongeorge1989]

2 minutes ago, Fudge said:

Government

I meant these ukgc casinos you think are superior, why do they offer these services if like you say you could just sign up to another casino in minutes.

it’s because they help no? 

[Guest Fudge]

12 minutes ago, Aarongeorge1989 said:

I meant these ukgc casinos you think are superior, why do they offer these services if like you say you could just sign up to another casino in minutes.

it’s because they help no? 

What I meant is that there's no point of safeguards at some crypto casinos because if I would want to play, I can just deposit in different crypto casino that don't have those safeguards. It's just too easy. If you don't have enough self control to stop playing at one casino then why would deposit limits stop you from finding different casino? Since there's no regulation, no Gamstop at crypto world then there are plenty of trustworthy casinos with no KYC and no limits.

Sorry for not making it clearer, English is not my native language.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Fudge

[Bangers]

2 hours ago, Aarongeorge1989 said:

I’ve been watching Rolla pretty much since he started streaming and at no point have I ever seen him look at the camera and say

“Look how much I’ve just won on roulette, get yourself on this casino and load up Tier and you will be cashing out in no time”

 

But one size doesn't fit all fella 

[Hiredblade1999]

Im just a puppy on this forum, as I hardly ever post.

But,.. I have been watching Rolla for about 5 years and regularly visit the forum here and there.

I have not once thought to myself that Rolla would ever be one to even consider this route of Crypto casinos. 
But I will not judge the actions, as I am not in with strict restrictions as those in the UK, so I don’t have to choose between limited Casino.. nope 99% are available to me (which can be good and bad alike).

Only thing i would consider not watching Rolla for would be:

1- If he started playing with amounts that are obviously fake and/or ridiculous like trainwank on $1000 slot spins (example)..

2- He lost his connection in his community.. obviously this seems far fetched, biggest reason I point this out is I love to watch Rolla’s streams as more of a community feel, he talks openly with the chat, and goes into a more deeper connection, like Hypa. Only way I could see Crypto doing this is a change in viewpoints or promoting to gather more viewers/sign ups.

I’m sure Rolla wouldn’t go to that, so I wouldn’t judge if he took up Crypto as a test to see how it fly’s.

If you don’t mind me asking though @Rocknrolla Would you consider other sources of gambling licenses first?

 not that I care if you play with Crypto, it’s still currency to me, but because there are so many legitimate Malta licensed casinos out there like MrGreen, LVbet, Bet365 etc that are top tier and world recognised also with a long standing.

To play at a Malta casino, would you have to literally move to another country, or would making visits like you would for Crypto work also? I’m unsure, but would an address from another country and a source of ID from that country be enough?

Either way, stay yourself, all the best!

 

[Guest Chair Slots]

I think the part about losing his connection with the community is the nail on the head @Hiredblade1999 . That is EXACTLY what is on the line here, and Rolla needs to tread a very careful line with what he does next IMO or he risks losing this (Which makes him what he is).

'Connection' is subjective from person to person of course. For some people the connection will be there no matter what he does, and he would literally have to tell that person to fuck off for the connection to break.

For others, 'connection' might mean he is open about his day to day life and people find him relatable in that sense, no matter where and what he gambles on.

For people such as myself, I have a connection with Rolla because he is so faithful and compassionate to what a real gambler is, and the problems it can cause it peoples' lives. That understanding is made up from a lot of things he does, from a lot of things he DOESN'T do, and from a lot of principles he holds.

If he starts veering off that path then for me that connection will break.

Great point by HiredBlade that. And that's why it's such a contentious subject - because the 'connection' means lots of different things to lots of different people.

[Andymitzy]

if rolla doesn’t go ahead with this he will be gone for good anyway.

so u people saying connection matters etc..u won’t have anyone with a connection anyway. 

at least it rolla does go ahead with this, he will be at least as honest as he can be about it and will still be more honest than anyone else, who is still about. 

would u rather have rolla fade away into the abyss cos he couldn’t survive and have no one honest around, or have him do this and have at least someone, who maybe isn’t doing it the way u had hoped (cos he couldn’t without) but still is upfront and honest about everything? 

if he does this it will help his family etc and he will do it in a better way than anyone else is doing it i’m sure. 

so if u take ur tinted glasses off..this is still better than him going for good and having to watch someone who really is about money money money. 

at least the guy has a heart and will think about his viewers. 

go for it rolla lad

Edited May 31, 2023 by Andymitzy

[Kings lynn]

3 hours ago, Chair Slots said:

I think the part about him losing his connection with the community is the nail on the head @Hiredblade1999

I popped over to Nick formally of nick slots stream a few nights ago to see how the kick platform worked. 

I saw a few names from this forum I recognised in chat cheering him on and no one in that chat was more jubilant and happy than you chair. 

I'm just confused why you’re worried you’re going to lose your connection with @Rocknrolla when you still have that great connection with Nick who is streaming crypto and you’re greatly enjoying it? 

 

[Guest Fudge]

3 hours ago, Kings lynn said:

I popped over to Nick formally of nick slots stream a few nights ago to see how the kick platform worked. 

I saw a few names from this forum I recognised in chat cheering him on and no one in that chat was more jubilant and happy than you chair. 

I'm just confused why you’re worried you’re going to lose your connection with @Rocknrolla when you still have that great connection with Nick who is streaming crypto and you’re greatly enjoying it? 

 

If most of the forum and subscribers already watches other crypto streamers then I don't see why would it matter if rolla started doing it as well. I don't, so I have no idea, but I wonder what the stats are.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Fudge