david1111 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Who reads the terms and conditions really. Imagine getting a bet on with a few minutes to the race and then saying to yourself oh hang on I'd better read this 100 page document. its basically a get out for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 They pay a lot more attention 2You when you win, than they do when yur losing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaLad Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Bangers said: They pay a lot more attention 2You when you win, than they do when yur losing Must explain why I’ve never been sow checked I could be one of those people who could claim it all back most probably. But I’m not a fanny I know what I’m getting myself into and will never take that route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, L&LJan said: I see £48 cashback to be activated? not generous? It's £48 MORE than Our great leader has activated since his brilliant giveaway idea thread dated 21st September 2022 Tight arse fecker YEH I SAID IT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, david1111 said: Who reads the terms and conditions really. Imagine getting a bet on with a few minutes to the race and then saying to yourself oh hang on I'd better read this 100 page document. its basically a get out for them True Watched a few Vids the other night on Harry Findlay, he said ................WHO is a responsible gambler ? The very fact you are GAMBLING kind of gives a hint on what kind of person you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, VillaLad said: But I’m not a fanny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, VillaLad said: Isn’t it a binding contract once the bets accepted? No. If they refuse to pay you you cannot sue and get paid as gambling debts are not enforceable under law. That is why someone owes you money get them to sign an IOU as that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaLad Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, philinvicta said: No. If they refuse to pay you you cannot sue and get paid as gambling debts are not enforceable under law. That is why someone owes you money get them to sign an IOU as that is. It is a binding contract though Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, philinvicta said: No. If they refuse to pay you you cannot sue and get paid People over the years haven't been paid and sued Don't know any1 personally but read a good amount of stories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, VillaLad said: It is a binding contract though Phil In England and Wales since 2005 I see which was also when the Gambling Commission was set up. In Northern Ireland it was only looked at in 2021 I am not sure about Scotland. I was always under the impression that gambling debts were unenforecable and I left the UK before 2005 so did not realise it had been changed. In the past it was always the bookmakers that did not want it changed because they did not want to have to chase gamblers for money and forclose on their homes etc. I think it was the advent of debit and credit cards and the reduction of credit betting meaning that all bets had to be paid on that led to the change. It also only applies to a UKGC licenced company. This also means that if you are overpaid that bookmakers can force you to pay money back and also that the terms and conditions are highly significant if you run into a problem. It also means that they can refuse to take your bet just as any other commercial company can refuse to trade with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bangers said: People over the years haven't been paid and sued Don't know any1 personally but read a good amount of stories One of the biggest cases was against your made Fred when he was made to pay out 1.7 million despite claiming a software glitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) i also see that it is the reason you are not allowed to bet using someone elses money ( this may be the reason people get into trouble using a spouses card) it also means you cannot place a bet on behalf of someone else as you are the one entering the contract. This means that if someone asks you to put a bet on for them that is technically a breach of contract Funnily enough if you bet with inside information that is also not allowed. Edited May 23, 2023 by philinvicta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, philinvicta said: One of the biggest cases was against your made Fred when he was made to pay out 1.7 million despite claiming a software glitch. I despise them all Phil Same with Casinos All Sharks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 This gives a lot of detail with regards bets as contracts https://www.onlinebetting.org.uk/betting-guides/gambling-contracts.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I have to say with all this talk about which casinos @Rocknrolla is playing on means that if he plays on a non UKGC licenced casino which I think he may be and they do not pay him he is not protected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, philinvicta said: I have to say with all this talk about which casinos @Rocknrolla is playing on means that if he plays on a non UKGC licenced casino which I think he may be and they do not pay him he is not protected Guess he'll be fully aware of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, VillaLad said: But I’m not a fanny Hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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