Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 2021 Will be firmly remembered as the unluckiest year in relation to gambling on horses along with a mentally challenging time, not that it's a competition but if any member has worse results then step forward and present your case. Most of these selections have already featured in some way in the racing section along with various images of said betting slips as I'm a sucker for evidence, any that are missing most probably just means I was pig sick to upload it or was attempting to forget it, even with a ''very disturbing year'' of near misses on doing ''rough gambler style'' calculations believe it or not I still march into 2022 with profit be that nowhere near what it ''could have been'' - could of should of eh, the gamblers motto Quick true story before we begin in regards to the years biggest loss horse - Keeper, - Keeper trained by Mr Roger Charlton and out of Frankel and went off at 4/7 in a piss poor Class 5 at Kempton, I had silly money on at odds of 4/6 - for some reason when I lump on horses at 4/6 they seem cursed and I end up losing, the dud slips I have over the years that all say ...............4/6 is just crazy and maybe a lesson should now be learned along with those odds being .........AVOIDED! The gamblers thinking - behind backing Keeper was me attempting to buy money for another horse and race later that same week, Keeper ran on Wednesday 7th July and finished .......2nd! Not only was it the years biggest flop BUT the 50/1 rag won the race, a horse that had done feck all before that win and it's done feck all since that win, OR as I like to say ..........Wee fat Bob from the bakers beat Usain Bolt .......AGAIN! The horse I was attempting to buy money for was Snow Lantern that was running at HQ in the Falmouth stakes on Friday 9th July, Keeper gets beat by the 50/1 rag and as gamblers we then know we've fecked up and we also know what happens next, Snow Lantern wins at 6/1 - Yes it was a decent win BUT in my head it's not, I recovered all the loss from backing keeper and also make profit from the two combined BUT keeper losing wasn't THE PLAN. By far the biggest win of the year was from Came from the Dark - Sandown back on 3rd July, thankfully that was a win that was took out and saved and that very horse was by far the main horse that ''kind of'' made sure the year was always going to end in profit. The last hose I backed was back on 29th Oct at Kempton - Run for freedom, yip 2nd and even though it wasn't a large bet my confidence was ROCK BOTTOM along with my bottom lip. Tilt mode was activated and it was time to walk the land in a form of rehab destination head feck GROUND ZERO! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) When I said many times in the racing section ....................These 2nd's are disturbing I meant what I said. Cheltenham Bumper March - Kilcruitt- 2nd - Wins Next time Out over in Ireland when I was on a break Cos of the festival Loss Detective - 2nd it's ( last 5 runs ) - I backed the horse all 5 times in 2021 it was 2nd all five times Motagally - Beverley 15th June - 2nd, And an ALL IN Bet Red Derek - Doncaster 26th June - 2nd Possible Ambition - Beverley 13th July - 2nd Ultimate Fame - Stratford 29th June - 2nd Tyger Bay - Kempton 30th June - 2nd. Also ran at Windsor 5th July - 2nd Music Society - Ayr 5th July - 2nd Keeper - July 7th Kempton 2nd and Biggest Losing bet of 2021 Bashful - Chepstow 9th July - 2nd - 30th July 3rd & 11th Aug - 2nd Dragon Symbol - Newmarket 10th July - 2nd Mohaafeth - York 24th July - 3rd ''Large stake bet'' Wise Eagle - Musselburgh 25th July - 2nd Snow Lantern - Goodwood 28th July - 3rd Bascule - Windsor 2nd August - 2nd Mejthaam - Kempton 2nd August - 3rd Sarah's Verse - Ffos Las 3rd August - 2nd Farhh North - Windsor 8th Aug - 2nd Tazaman - Wolverhampton 30th August - 2nd For Jim - Hexham 31st August - 2nd Iris Dancer - Hamilton 1st September - 2nd Starman - Haydock 4th September - 2nd Gorcombe Moonshine - Newton Abbot 6th September - 2nd He's Our Star - Brighton 6th September - 2nd 4 races in a row Shining Aitch - Doncaster 8th September - 2nd Montanna - Uttoxeter 8th September Detective - Carlisle 8th September - 2nd Arranmore - Carlisle 8th September - 2nd Three Dons - Wolverhampton 18th September - 2nd Aliento - Catterick- 18th September - 2nd Ciotog - Wolverhampton 18th Oct - 2nd Newyorkstateofmind - Wolverhampton 21st Oct - 2nd Bandinelli - Wolverhampton 27th October - 2nd Artemis Sky - Chelmsford - 28th October - 2nd Run to Freedom - Kempton 29th October - 2nd. Edited December 3, 2021 by Bangers 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) From 29th Oct to Wednesday 1st Dec the land was walked ''rehab'' Ironically back in 15th Oct I backed two horses in the same race at Uttoxeter, Ask a Honey Bee & Kiltealy Brigg, Ask a Honey Bee was Yip 2nd and Kiltealy Brigg was 4th I had a lurk on the site a few night back and read about Coconut Splash in a 4 runner race at Haydock The old gambling fuse was lit BUT who to back decisions decisions . . Edited December 3, 2021 by Bangers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 BooM! Merry Christmas troops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted December 3, 2021 It's like the old saying any luck you have is bad luck. Good too see you @Bangers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, david1111 said: It's like the old saying any luck you have is bad luck. Good too see you @Bangers Disturbing year mate You couldn't make it up if you tried Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 Some duds from the vault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted December 3, 2021 Do you actually keep all these slips as a reminder @Bangers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 The best bet of the year by a country mile and the only reason I went full degen baws deep on this day was ironically because the run before this win I backed him at HQ ''not heavy'' and he was ..........2nd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, david1111 said: Do you actually keep all these slips as a reminder @Bangers Most of the time Yes You know the nature of the game the same as me David, sometimes we just kid ourselves on, we lose a ton then win a ton and we then feel like a winner lol Big wins are very addictive but big losses as we both know ''with age'' just get harder to deal with. I still don't know why I even returned and had a bet on Wednesday ...............My only answer is a moment of utter madness that paid off Hope you are well yourself mate ? Edited December 3, 2021 by Bangers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, Bangers said: Most of the time Yes You know the nature of the game the same as me David, sometimes we just kid ourselves on, we lose a ton then win a ton and we then feel like a winner lol Bit wins are very addictive but big losses as we both know ''with age'' just get harder to deal with. I still don't know why I even returned and had a bet on Wednesday ...............My only answer is a moment of utter madness that paid off Hope you are well yourself mate ? Indeed, if you are down, break even is a win. I'm gamstopped now so done with this online shit. Better for it mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, david1111 said: online shit. Better for it mate Yeh I try and avoid it too Still prefer a slip in my hand and then if it wins collecting the cash Online to the likes of us is just digits and you know how Oct 2018 ended up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacko 12,482 Posted December 3, 2021 I genuinely feel the bookies pricing of horses is completely mental nowadays, there was one running last week that opened odds on running its first race in a bumper, needless to say it got fucked. I feel it for ya @Bangers, we’re now onto the dross of national hunt racing where 1/3 1/5 shots are turned over on a daily basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Blacko said: I genuinely feel the bookies pricing of horses is completely mental nowadays, there was one running last week that opened odds on running its first race in a bumper, needless to say it got fucked. I feel it for ya @Bangers, we’re now onto the dross of national hunt racing where 1/3 1/5 shots are turned over on a daily basis. It's a very shady game mate and you'll not need the likes of me to point that out I've never been comfortable with the lay bet as it's a lot easier for those in the know to back a horse to lose and that bet for me just shouldn't exist. I've been in some deep dark places this year and my confidence is still on the mend from certain races, I'm still a punter on this site that's still learning and nothing these days shocks me, I have always felt it's much better putting up both sides of gambling, that being the highs and lows. Lots of those above results were very VERY close calls, mugged on the wire etc, we all get those result endings but this year they were relentless and it became mentally challenging even for someone like me that's been round the block a few times. Fine margins from a successful bet or a failed bet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jok3st3r 12,584 Posted December 3, 2021 Good to see you @Bangers And great to have windy miller back @david1111 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbucks1983 683 Posted December 5, 2021 @Bangers do you just put it on the nose? Just curious as you don't seem to just back short odds. I know you don't get as much back if it wins but with that obscene run of seconds you'd have got a bit back off the place in a few instances. Regardless, if you've still turned a small profit this year that's a huge positive and wouldn't question yourself too much, looks like it was more luck more than anything that went against you. To get such consistent 2nds you're obviously doing something right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, bigbucks1983 said: @Bangers do you just put it on the nose? Just curious as you don't seem to just back short odds. I know you don't get as much back if it wins but with that obscene run of seconds you'd have got a bit back off the place in a few instances. Regardless, if you've still turned a small profit this year that's a huge positive and wouldn't question yourself too much, looks like it was more luck more than anything that went against you. To get such consistent 2nds you're obviously doing something right. Just depends on a few things if I'll go E/w I can have big arguments with certain bets along with stakes but those arguments are all in my own head. Even the grade / class of race will depend on a Win or E/w bet and the odds. It's just been a cruel unusual year but again I've still had some decent wins and both Royal Ascot and Goodwood were both kind meetings, I overthink things at times and my biggest weakness is going into chase mode if the horse that was researched gets beat, not as bad as I used to be ''with age'' but that weakness will always be there I guess. As a few on here will know ''maybe even you too'' that a part of gambling is about the rush / buzz, if we get a win we also get our hit, they don't last and we return for another try. Some of those results were very bitter pills to swallow, I looked up to the skies a few times this year and could only sigh and shake my head, tough game at times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 18,100 Posted December 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bangers said: As a few on here will know ''maybe even you too'' that a part of gambling is about the rush / buzz, if we get a win we also get our hit, they don't last and we return for another try. If there was a gambling bible that quote would be in it. It's something I miss as there is nothing to replace it. It's the way it has to be 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 5, 2021 Just now, david1111 said: If there was a gambling bible that quote would be in it. It's something I miss as there is nothing to replace it. It's the way it has to be Reward mate REWARD It doesn't always involve cash Those nice wins when they do land make us feel good 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 8, 2021 Still buzzing from this morning and how ironic that a thread that was started purely to document a cruel year of ''2nd's'' turns with such a run of luck, purely because of a few sentimental reasons I normally always cover No-2 & 22 but have rarely had any luck from them. Yesterday was a bust and I only had 2 daft winners on small stakes so just fancied a roll of the dice this morning on the evil wheel, I still find it crazy weird on the timing of me logging in and then playing, 22 landed and I did then think of just cashing out and running but just thot feck it. Not a religious person in the slightest BUT get this, this is my ''2nd'' time at doing this post, about 10 mins ago it was all finished but for the first time ever on this laptop the screen froze and wouldn't let me do a thing, I couldn't even scroll over and hit submit, I had to switch the thing off by the main power button log back in and rewrite it for a 2nd time, that stuff blows my mind. However anyone sees this I feel it's safe to say a run like that will NEVER HAPPEN ever again, my only very slight negative is I never doubled the bet each time, seen that fella 7 Neighbours do that and I have done it in the past but the way things panned out I genuinely wasn't thinking straight and was really struggling with what I was seeing. What a mega weird morning BUT all the signs were there lol Get the feck in troops. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 8, 2021 One of my only winners from yesterday LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 11,269 Posted December 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bangers said: Still buzzing from this morning and how ironic that a thread that was started purely to document a cruel year of ''2nd's'' turns with such a run of luck, purely because of a few sentimental reasons I normally always cover No-2 & 22 but have rarely had any luck from them. Yesterday was a bust and I only had 2 daft winners on small stakes so just fancied a roll of the dice this morning on the evil wheel, I still find it crazy weird on the timing of me logging in and then playing, 22 landed and I did then think of just cashing out and running but just thot feck it. Not a religious person in the slightest BUT get this, this is my ''2nd'' time at doing this post, about 10 mins ago it was all finished but for the first time ever on this laptop the screen froze and wouldn't let me do a thing, I couldn't even scroll over and hit submit, I had to switch the thing off by the main power button log back in and rewrite it for a 2nd time, that stuff blows my mind. However anyone sees this I feel it's safe to say a run like that will NEVER HAPPEN ever again, my only very slight negative is I never doubled the bet each time, seen that fella 7 Neighbours do that and I have done it in the past but the way things panned out I genuinely wasn't thinking straight and was really struggling with what I was seeing. What a mega weird morning BUT all the signs were there lol Get the feck in troops. Seeing these number 2s come out reminds me of a time many years ago in a paddy Powers when they brought out a new game with 9 numbers and three draws I remember doing number 2s in a patent and waited for the draw to start. Somebody came over and started a conversation and stood so I could not see the screen very well and i was trying not to be rude but was looking over their shoulder . I saw the first draw and saw a 2 drop so was happy enough as I would at least break even. He then started to point to a horse on the wall so I had to turn around after a while he finished and I looked up to see a second 2 drop so I was delighted thinking that was great as I had got the double and wondered what the ball was I had missed . It turned out that was the second draw as they were gabbling on between draws next thing a third 2 dropped and I had scooped the max! I was delighted and picked up around 900 . Funnily enough it was stopped after about a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, philinvicta said: Seeing these number 2s come out reminds me of a time many years ago in a paddy Powers when they brought out a new game with 9 numbers and three draws I remember doing number 2s in a patent and waited for the draw to start. Somebody came over and started a conversation and stood so I could not see the screen very well and i was trying not to be rude but was looking over their shoulder . I saw the first draw and saw a 2 drop so was happy enough as I would at least break even. He then started to point to a horse on the wall so I had to turn around after a while he finished and I looked up to see a second 2 drop so I was delighted thinking that was great as I had got the double and wondered what the ball was I had missed . It turned out that was the second draw as they were gabbling on between draws next thing a third 2 dropped and I had scooped the max! I was delighted and picked up around 900 . Funnily enough it was stopped after about a week. Luck really does fascinate me at times Phil, good or bad the twists can be mind boggling at times Even watched a couple of races recently where you'd have put your house on a horse that took up the running, THEN the 2nd fought back and got up to win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bangers 13,697 Posted December 8, 2021 @philinvicta Example, watch that back if you can, or anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites