bigbucks1983 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Just caught up on the BTG Gold Megaways stream. Reading the comments it struck me how many people assumed Rolla had been paid for the stream. I understand why people would think that but can't see it myself. It was sad but again not surprising that many now believed Rolla uses fake funds. This is simply by association in that Hideous Slots did a promotion on the same slot the same day for BTG and many believe he uses fake funds. First, if Hideous reads this, this isn't about if you use fake money or not so you don't to chime in. @Rocknrolla I read many comments from you trying to explain the situation but there are many dead ears out there. Personally I think this really goes to show how easy it is to have your name/brand tarnished by association. This proves doing anything with a company that works closely with any other doubted streamer can easily get you lumped in that boat by the masses. Think I'm trying to say is be a bit more careful next time if something like this arises before going ahead with it. Personally I don't think you did anything wrong other than play a shite game for a couple of hours but it's proved how quickly and easily people will assume someone uses funny money and one of the reasons so many people like you is you are legit. Also BTG churn out so many shite games now I think they needed you so you probably could/should have got paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB91 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Don’t know why it would bother anyone if someone who is a slot affiliated was paid to play slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrightmeow Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Its funny to me how some viewers care more about what other viewers say or think about the streamers they are watching than the actual streamers. Who cares what some random people think. 70%+ of people of the viewers are complete idiots anyways and that shows from the dumb comments in the chat. Also those responses are normal for slot streamers and every single one of them are getting them on a regular bases. You just have to deal with it, its the internet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I think the only slight mistake was not saying whether or not he was getting paid for it. It doesn’t matter to me whether he was or he wasn’t, but not saying either way probably resulted in a lot of those comments, mine included. Maybe just being totally clear about the situation is the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Chair Slots said: I think the only slight mistake was not saying whether or not he was getting paid for it. It doesn’t matter to me whether he was or he wasn’t, but not saying either way probably resulted in a lot of those comments, mine included. Maybe just being totally clear about the situation is the way forward. I had put 'not sponsored' in first line of the description but yeh it didn't even occur to me that people might just assume its paid promotion which when thinking about it makes sense but just wasn't the case with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 10 hours ago, RB91 said: Don’t know why it would bother anyone if someone who is a slot affiliated was paid to play slots. I know its pretty standard, next time I'll just say I got paid even if I didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsty0312 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Genuinely disappointed you didn't get paid to advertise their new game. You need to up your negotiation skills! Association works both ways- btg will get more out of it by having rolla advertise the game. People will read what they want to in each, to suit their own bias opinion. Making money through slot providers is a great marketing tactic. Like it or not, it's still a business. It just happens to be headed up by a crazy arse risk taking gambler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB91 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: I know its pretty standard, next time I'll just say I got paid even if I didn't It’d probably save hassle. People are so fucking wrapped up in what other people are doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, kirsty0312 said: Genuinely disappointed you didn't get paid to advertise their new game. You need to up your negotiation skills! Association works both ways- btg will get more out of it by having rolla advertise the game. People will read what they want to in each, to suit their own bias opinion. Making money through slot providers is a great marketing tactic. Like it or not, it's still a business. It just happens to be headed up by a crazy arse risk taking gambler. Its pretty common from providers to do it but the major ones like BTG don't because they just don't need to, people will play their games regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISlot Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Rocknrolla said: Its pretty common from providers to do it but the major ones like BTG don't because they just don't need to, people will play their games regardless I should not give BTG free advertisement next time you should ask for 3k to play and 3k for your time, looks like you did favorite to theme for free advertisement, not many play BTG games as we did before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Just now, ISlot said: I should not give BTG free advertisement next time you should ask for 3k to play and 3k for your time, looks like you did favorite to theme for free advertisement, not many play BTG games as we did before For me they're one of the good guys and I like their slots (fudge DHV) just next time I'll probably do a few things different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISlot Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: For me they're one of the good guys and I like their slots (fudge DHV) just next time I'll probably do a few things different lost 17k on DHV since then never play BTG slots high then 60p I don't like their RTP the way it works Random 96% that means we can do 1000s spins with 0-10RTP one spin 96%, and their bonus RTP must be like 15% 20% worst then DOA2 bonus RTP is 25% Edited August 21, 2021 by ISlot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andywilliams1187 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 8 hours ago, kirsty0312 said: Association works both ways- btg will get more out of it by having rolla advertise the game. I agree but it's a lot more difficult now to get decent deals from providers; twitch/fake streamers have seen to that with the mass audience they pull in. Unfortunately streamers like rolla/bandit etc might have a solid fan base, but the bigger views etc are with the fake streamers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 7 hours ago, ISlot said: lost 17k on DHV since then never play BTG slots high then 60p I don't like their RTP the way it works Random 96% that means we can do 1000s spins with 0-10RTP one spin 96%, and their bonus RTP must be like 15% 20% worst then DOA2 bonus RTP is 25% It’s not unusual for slots to only have a bonus RTP of 20-25%. Main reason for that is the majority of the RTP goes in to small 0.1x - 5x wins that just get recycled in order to prolong play. For a slot to have a high bonus RTP it would have to mean the base game would play completely dead. A good example of that would be Fruit Warp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISlot Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chair Slots said: It’s not unusual for slots to only have a bonus RTP of 20-25%. Main reason for that is the majority of the RTP goes in to small 0.1x - 5x wins that just get recycled in order to prolong play. For a slot to have a high bonus RTP it would have to mean the base game would play completely dead. A good example of that would be Fruit Warp. well every slots bonus has RTP just like a game they have, lot of ppl think yee 96% rtp is good but - 26% bonus rtp, that means most of slots on 96% rtp are 70% rtp plus 26% bonus RTP, I know DOA2 bonus RTP is 26% BTG bonus rtp is about 20-26% Edited August 21, 2021 by ISlot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, ISlot said: well every slots bonus has RTP just like a game they have, lot of ppl think yee 96% rtp is good but - 26% bonus rtp, that means most of slots on 96% rtp are 70% rtp plus 26% bonus RTP, I know DOA2 bonus RTP is 26% BTG bonus rtp is about 20-26% I can’t help but think you’ve basically said what I said here and just regressed it slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISlot Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Chair Slots said: I can’t help but think you’ve basically said what I said here and just regressed it slightly. since u act know everything what you think of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Total prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISlot Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Chair Slots said: Total prick. good to know I thot he was stand up comedian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solario333 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 @Rocknrolla shows the reality of slots at different stakes. Whether any slot provider pays him is entirely irrelevant except to his personal need to have funds in hand to practise his skills. however a tough few minutes at the end of the last stream deprived him of sanity as he threw his money away on the greedy and vengeful lightning roulette which is a 2 edged sword of the worst kind . sometimes being paid huge can make you into a classic fool whose memory dictates the action… and we’ve all been there , but probably on lesser stakes …. so I wish @Rocknrolla the best of all worlds when sanity returns and slots pay out fairly …. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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