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1 minute ago, Eaves21 said:

Hmm 🤔 can I earn money out that link 🤣

not fake one 😂yes is some YouTubes got lot of points they got free tesla 

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Just now, MrUKHackz said:

No, you can buy a Tesla!

Bloody hell mate I can’t afford a Tesla. A Mini Cooper old style maybe 🤣

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Just now, ISlot said:

not fake one 😂yes is some YouTubes got lot of points they got free tesla 

I would have to verify it’s legit first mate 😂

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Just now, Eaves21 said:

I would have to verify it’s legit first mate 😂

Your right elon musk is not to be trusted person 😂

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Just now, ISlot said:

Your right elon musk is not to be trusted person 😂

That’s bloody true mate I think that guy needs locking up 😂

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4 minutes ago, Eaves21 said:

Bloody hell mate I can’t afford a Tesla. A Mini Cooper old style maybe 🤣

Old minis are great cars mate - can get them round corners sideways and hold the road really well 

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Just now, andywilliams1187 said:

Old minis are great cars mate - can get them round corners sideways and hold the road really well 

That’s true 🤣 I would of loved one tbh. I would say being well over 6ft I’m to big to drive one just have to do it Mr bean style 

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I’m just not sure if the photo above is trusted 😂 time to get in contact with Mr Bean

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Fuck me you know shit’s been going down when you’re offline for a few hours and your thread has 7 more pages 😳

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11 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

Old minis are great cars mate - can get them round corners sideways and hold the road really well 

I have been in 2 old style minis as they rolled onto there roof, one was pretty bad with my Mum driving, the other was hilarious and we got out and pushed it back on all 4 wheels!

Not sure I'd count them as good handling! Best little car for me was the 90's Clio 16v or Williams, it would cock its back wheel and go round corners on 3 wheels!

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Yeah for me this thing just doesn’t work.

the main problem is the site or body handing out the verifications has to have some credibility behind it, otherwise it’s meaningless. For example I bought something online recently because it had good Trust Pilot reviews. Trust Pilot are credible. People book holidays because places have a high Trip Adviser rating. Again, very credible. Maybe Phil needs to work on becoming credible FIRST and THEN handing out the verifications.

I don’t go spending my money on a site that has a random tick off some random unknown twat.

The other point, which @bigbucks1983 quite rightly pointed out is the grey area about recycling affiliate money. I understand it is wages just like you and I earn, but it definitely removes a large portion of the risk factor, which is basically what gambling is, and allows for more attractive stakes. (btw I include Rolla in this)

And lastly, it is literally only a matter of time before someone who is ‘verified’ is rumbled for using fake money, and it all collapses on its arse there and then.

So yeah, nice idea but misses the key ingredient - credibility.

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5 minutes ago, Chair Slots said:

Yeah for me this thing just doesn’t work.

the main problem is the site or body handing out the verifications has to have some credibility behind it, otherwise it’s meaningless. For example I bought something online recently because it had good Trust Pilot reviews. Trust Pilot are credible. People book holidays because places have a high Trip Adviser rating. Again, very credible. Maybe Phil needs to work on becoming credible FIRST and THEN handing out the verifications.

I don’t go spending my money on a site that has a random tick off some random unknown twat.

The other point, which @bigbucks1983 quite rightly pointed out is the grey area about recycling affiliate money. I understand it is wages just like you and I earn, but it definitely removes a large portion of the risk factor, which is basically what gambling is, and allows for more attractive stakes. (btw I include Rolla in this)

And lastly, it is literally only a matter of time before someone who is ‘verified’ is rumbled for using fake money, and it all collapses on its arse there and then.

So yeah, nice idea but misses the key ingredient - credibility.

The problem is I can verify some one then next week they use fake funds. Then we would check next month and then they would be removed. I wouldn’t have to put up there fake as people would notice for there selfs. You can not stop people using fake funds once verified it’s about keeping on top of it and if they do they get deleted 

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1 minute ago, Eaves21 said:

The problem is I can verify some one then next week they use fake funds. Then we would check next month and then they would be removed. I wouldn’t have to put up there fake as people would notice for there selfs. You can not stop people using fake funds once verified it’s about keeping on top of it and if they do they get deleted 

Exactly, so it’s pointless. And to be fair matey the topic isn’t about your site.

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1 minute ago, Chair Slots said:

Exactly, so it’s pointless. And to be fair matey the topic isn’t about your site.

I was mentioned so I commented mate. Even about phill I don’t think it’s pointless and as he is very high up and competition towards me I still think it’s great and worth doing and I support it. Even if others don’t 

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5 minutes ago, Eaves21 said:

I was mentioned so I commented mate. Even about phill I don’t think it’s pointless and as he is very high up and competition towards me I still think it’s great and worth doing and I support it. Even if others don’t 

Where’s the great worth though if as you said someone you verified last week can start using fake funds this week?

And even if they do fly straight and they have yours or Phil’s ‘tick’ on their screen when they stream, what weight is that actually going to carry?

Actually don’t even answer because I know the answer already.

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Let’s be honest and stop beating about the bush, regardless of if you think both of your ideas are great and a start of a revolution they are not. I don’t doubt your intention however you have both already endorsed 1. A shady casino provider and 2. A shady license provider. 
 

That right there is why with all the best intentions in the world this will not work. You are both clearly willing to “ bend “ the rules as it suits you 1. Affiliation wise and 2. Business wise. 
 

I do appreciate you both trying to do something I just can’t trust the intent given the above and what we need is something that has 100% credibility or it just makes the water even less clear. 

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8 minutes ago, Eaves21 said:

I was mentioned so I commented mate. Even about phill I don’t think it’s pointless and as he is very high up and competition towards me I still think it’s great and worth doing and I support it. Even if others don’t 

yes but you and phill will lose trust and none will trust your pages 

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2 minutes ago, Chair Slots said:

Where’s the great worth though if as you said someone you verified last week can start using fake funds this week?

And even if they do fly straight and they have yours or Phil’s ‘tick’ on their screen when they stream, what weight is that actually going to carry?

Actually don’t even answer because I know the answer already.

Maybe you could answer if you already know the answer ? 

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2 minutes ago, Levskie101 said:

Let’s be honest and stop beating about the bush, regardless of if you think both of your ideas are great and a start of a revolution they are not. I don’t doubt your intention however you have both already endorsed 1. A shady casino provider and 2. A shady license provider. 
 

That right there is why with all the best intentions in the world this will not work. You are both clearly willing to “ bend “ the rules as it suits you 1. Affiliation wise and 2. Business wise. 
 

I do appreciate you both trying to do something I just can’t trust the intent given the above and what we need is something that has 100% credibility or it just makes the water even less clear. 

What rules would we bend mate. No rules are bent at all. 

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1 minute ago, Eaves21 said:

Maybe you could answer if you already know the answer ? 

Sure, the answer is absolutely and utterly none.

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6 minutes ago, Chair Slots said:

Sure, the answer is absolutely and utterly none.

Do you not think if some one who starts using fake funds after they prove there real we do not continue to check bank statements and so on? That would be daft from us if we didn’t. Now let’s be honest when a streamer is verified do you honestly think they would risk being outed by going to fake funds after all this. If they did we would know and would remove them straight away. I understand your concerns with all this and love seeing your passion too. Im just trying to do something good the same as Phill. 

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23 minutes ago, Chair Slots said:

Yeah for me this thing just doesn’t work.

the main problem is the site or body handing out the verifications has to have some credibility behind it, otherwise it’s meaningless. For example I bought something online recently because it had good Trust Pilot reviews. Trust Pilot are credible. People book holidays because places have a high Trip Adviser rating. Again, very credible. Maybe Phil needs to work on becoming credible FIRST and THEN handing out the verifications.

I don’t go spending my money on a site that has a random tick off some random unknown twat.

The other point, which @bigbucks1983 quite rightly pointed out is the grey area about recycling affiliate money. I understand it is wages just like you and I earn, but it definitely removes a large portion of the risk factor, which is basically what gambling is, and allows for more attractive stakes. (btw I include Rolla in this)

And lastly, it is literally only a matter of time before someone who is ‘verified’ is rumbled for using fake money, and it all collapses on its arse there and then.

So yeah, nice idea but misses the key ingredient - credibility.

Phil does have a lot of credibility though and its surely a good thing that its not come from the streamer side of things. Trust Pilot and Trip Advisor gained credibility over time, this site is less than a week old.

The grey area around affiliate money will always be there but thats almost impossible for a site to judge or put as fake money. Its the money put in that can't be withdrawn thats the main issue.

Who would you have do it, what would you do? 

Reading some of these comment baffles me not just from this forum but from everywhere and wouldn't even blame Phil if he just shut it down and then what we all go back to moaning about the fakes and speculating! Lets stop finding everything negative in it or if there are holes lets find solutions!

 

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10 minutes ago, Eaves21 said:

What rules would we bend mate. No rules are bent at all. 

Having Genesis casino on the affiliation page, you are bending the rules by proclaiming to verify streamers yet promote one of the worst casino brands with a UKGC license to your audience. Whereby there is a huge likelihood they will be massively stalled to get verified or paid, or in some cases not paid at all. That’s not even the worst of it either. 

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1 minute ago, Rocknrolla said:

Phil does have a lot of credibility though and its surely a good thing that its not come from the streamer side of things. Trust Pilot and Trip Advisor gained credibility over time, this site is less than a week old.

The grey area around affiliate money will always be there but thats almost impossible for a site to judge or put as fake money. Its the money put in that can't be withdrawn thats the main issue.

Who would you have do it, what would you do? 

Reading some of these comment baffles me not just from this forum but from everywhere and wouldn't even blame Phil if he just shut it down and then what we all go back to moaning about the fakes and speculating! Lets stop finding everything negative in it or if there are holes lets find solutions!

 

Best post all day buddy 

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Just now, Levskie101 said:

Having Genesis casino on the affiliation page, you are bending the rules by proclaiming to verify streamers yet promote one of the worst casino brands with a UKGC license to your audience. Whereby there is a huge likelihood they will be massively stalled to get verified or paid, or in some cases not paid at all. That’s not even the worst of it either. 

And I’m aware of this and have complained massively and if you read up I’m going to be taking them off my site as they don’t seem to be changing in what they are doing 

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