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On 29/07/2021 at 20:20, Chair Slots said:

Yeah for me this thing just doesn’t work.

the main problem is the site or body handing out the verifications has to have some credibility behind it, otherwise it’s meaningless. For example I bought something online recently because it had good Trust Pilot reviews. Trust Pilot are credible. People book holidays because places have a high Trip Adviser rating. Again, very credible. Maybe Phil needs to work on becoming credible FIRST and THEN handing out the verifications.

I don’t go spending my money on a site that has a random tick off some random unknown twat.

The other point, which @bigbucks1983 quite rightly pointed out is the grey area about recycling affiliate money. I understand it is wages just like you and I earn, but it definitely removes a large portion of the risk factor, which is basically what gambling is, and allows for more attractive stakes. (btw I include Rolla in this)

And lastly, it is literally only a matter of time before someone who is ‘verified’ is rumbled for using fake money, and it all collapses on its arse there and then.

So yeah, nice idea but misses the key ingredient - credibility.

Im about the most credible person in gaming. Seriously you can google me, find podcasts, read articles, im against half of the stances gaming companies take, and even more so against corrupt regulatory decisions. Honestly - if you did some research youd think i was the single best person to do this.

On 29/07/2021 at 20:37, Chair Slots said:

Where’s the great worth though if as you said someone you verified last week can start using fake funds this week?

And even if they do fly straight and they have yours or Phil’s ‘tick’ on their screen when they stream, what weight is that actually going to carry?

Actually don’t even answer because I know the answer already.

If we verify them and they use fake funds the week after then... i mean what can anyone do? You drug test athletes at times,  but if they take steroids the day after then wtf are they supposed to do, you just keep testing at random times (as we will do) and we know what casinos mostly have fake funds so we will check those streams before any on MrGreen or Casumo.

On 29/07/2021 at 20:38, Levskie101 said:

Let’s be honest and stop beating about the bush, regardless of if you think both of your ideas are great and a start of a revolution they are not. I don’t doubt your intention however you have both already endorsed 1. A shady casino provider and 2. A shady license provider. 
 

That right there is why with all the best intentions in the world this will not work. You are both clearly willing to “ bend “ the rules as it suits you 1. Affiliation wise and 2. Business wise. 
 

I do appreciate you both trying to do something I just can’t trust the intent given the above and what we need is something that has 100% credibility or it just makes the water even less clear. 

We dont bend any rules. Were not even charging. 

On 29/07/2021 at 20:52, Rocknrolla said:

Phil does have a lot of credibility though and its surely a good thing that its not come from the streamer side of things. Trust Pilot and Trip Advisor gained credibility over time, this site is less than a week old.

The grey area around affiliate money will always be there but thats almost impossible for a site to judge or put as fake money. Its the money put in that can't be withdrawn thats the main issue.

Who would you have do it, what would you do? 

Reading some of these comment baffles me not just from this forum but from everywhere and wouldn't even blame Phil if he just shut it down and then what we all go back to moaning about the fakes and speculating! Lets stop finding everything negative in it or if there are holes lets find solutions!

 

Thanks! Id like to think i do. I mean if people just argued some ideas to make it better rather than random unfounded estimates on a secret motive we would bea  lot better placed.

On 29/07/2021 at 20:56, Levskie101 said:

I’m not going to pretend to know more about affiliation or casinos than you Paul as I defiantly do not. However this is in my opinion is why the problem is as big as it is. It can’t be a case of let’s just have anyone have a go at it as he’s least some good may happen. I’ve looked into both for less than an hour and already found flaws that they should of thought of fixing in the first pilot of any such site or idea. 

For sure send me flaws you think you find and we can take a look. When facebook launched was a bag of shit. They fixed things as they went along. Thats the joy of reverifying people.

On 29/07/2021 at 21:02, Rocknrolla said:

Look him up and see. For me what person or type of credibility is required for this, can't be a streamer but surely has to be in the industry no?

Maybe that will come or can they even do that, there isn't another site like this one out there so I wouldn't know. @phil_igp is that possible?

Yes. Google is your friend here. We are speaking to regulators in Q4 this year about trying to get some sort of recognition.

On 29/07/2021 at 21:05, Levskie101 said:

Anybody who is happily using curacao license or was as one of the main licensing bodies to casinos they are involved in or provide isn’t the right person. Although I do agree Phil appears to be coming from the right place and has good intentions. 
 

I am!

On 29/07/2021 at 21:16, philinvicta said:

It is a lot of effort  being put in if nobody is going to trust them anyways.   I also do not see many people looking up this site to see if  somebody is verified before they watch a stream  or sign up for an affiliate link.   Most of the new streamers tend to be promoting the same casino links which to me is in itself a bit of a giveaway

 

Phil has credibility to you as a rep of a company that is known to you but as he is in the background of how most of us deal with casinos   thus he is not known to us

ONly as you dont do your research. You have no idea on the credibility of Bernard Arnault... but I would say any high street shop owner or company would. Just as you shop there doesnt mean you know what we has done.

On 29/07/2021 at 22:03, Jok3st3r said:

One of the reason I love TGC is that the majority of the members say it as is it. They are extremely knowledgeable and not afraid to make their points heard but also listen to others POVs. Paul you have the best, most loyal following, people trust you.

I don't really know Phil other than he's Welsh and has decent taste in music but if he is as credible as some have said then we should be helping make this work. It's all about the naive youngsters (and older people) being suckered into the world of unrealistic gambling or just gambling full stop. Who knows what could happen if we all put our heads together to make it work.....perhaps it could be the end of the fakers, we simply don't know unless we give it a go. (I say we, I mean the people behind it)

I still think Rosh may be real... which is an improvement as I believed he was 100% real so I am catching up albeit a few years behind everyone else (other than his 100k followers of course lol) following that I'm obviously still pretty naive and I've been back and forth about this just from reading some of the comments.

There was/is always going to be teething problems, I mean look at the UKGC, they haven't got everything right, it takes time.....I think most people have made very valid points for and against but surely its worth a shot at making it work. 🤔

I am welsh. I have amazing taste in music. Verified. And thanks for the support. But yes it will take a bit of time, we need to verify the real players, but rememeber, this is designed so the fake players wont verify... as they cant. Then you have quite a clear list!

On 29/07/2021 at 23:07, 4houghts said:

So how will Igaming and the future of this website be interlinked?

Your saying your going to run this other website with absolutely zero value to yourself cus as far as im aware your not a full time streamer?

It just screams of ulterior motives or at the very least some sort of ego boost to be the one dishing out the merits.

I could be wrong, I am a lot. 

 

Im not even a part time streamer. I dont stream. This site will be run at a loss - confirmed.

On 29/07/2021 at 23:46, Kev40 said:

I'm wondering has this site been created to expose the fake streamers of this world or improve the reputation of the real streamers who have been doubted. In other words gain trust which inevitably will bring more players to the online gambling industry. After all this is a business and businesses are built on trust. 

See above. But yes partly we will do that. ITs unfair some of the accusations levelled at streamers. But at the same time its catching fakes, growing a base of streamers so the fakes will be outed simply by not being there.

22 hours ago, Rocknrolla said:

My final question for @phil_igp (for now anyway)

How can you tell if the screenshots have been edited or the webpage they've taken the screenshots from were edited?

A couple of things. We use Jumio (automated tool) which catches a lot of things. Then we match up manually, ask for a live image of the back office, compare every transaction in detail going back quite far. IS it possible to beat the system... maybe? I mean we wont know until we know. Noone knew about Lance armstrong for example. But they would need to get 20 things right perfectly going back MONTHS, and manage to get past the 3 detections we arent telling anyone about, which i find insanely unlikely.

20 hours ago, RB91 said:

I’d like to add to the record that @phil_igp is a slag. 👍🏻

Ive changed now. Dont be jealous.

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4 minutes ago, phil_igp said:

Im about the most credible person in gaming. Seriously you can google me, find podcasts, read articles, im against half of the stances gaming companies take, and even more so against corrupt regulatory decisions. Honestly - if you did some research youd think i was the single best person to do this.

Thing is mate anybody can say "I'm credible, look me up". And there may well be some stuff online that backs you up. The point is the accreditation needs to be a familiar logo or badge to any average Joe, without them having to do some research on it, which let's face it people won't.

It's like a restaurant having an AA Rosette - the AA are a recognised trusted brand therefore people will be automatically drawn to any restaurant that has that accreditation. If I open a restaurant and say I have a 'Dave Smith Shiny Star Award", it will mean nothing. Surely you understand that logic?

Just because you don't stream and have some sort of recognition in the background of the gambling industry doesn't give you the automatic authority to go around verifying people, and for people to trust that verification.

You might well be the best person to do this and I am not doubting that but trust me, you NEED some kind of recognised body behind you to endorse what you're doing, or it is completely meaningless.

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one of you verified stream post 4-5 videos and one stream every 12 hrs, 365 days he streams without bonus all cash, he easily losses min £10k a week, £10.000x52=£520.000 he also has 2 employers to pay other expenses travel UK IRLAND Tax rent on both places etc 

Stream like him needs like £1m a year to make from affiliation to cover his losses  

Does affiliation real pay that much to streamers?

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16 minutes ago, ISlot said:

one of you verified stream post 4-5 videos and one stream every 12 hrs, 365 days he streams without bonus all cash, he easily losses min £10k a week, £10.000x52=£520.000 he also has 2 employers to pay other expenses travel UK IRLAND Tax rent on both places etc 

Stream like him needs like £1m a year to make from affiliation to cover his losses  

Does affiliation real pay that much to streamers?

Are you going to check what you just said or just make it up?

4-5 videos and one stream every 12 hours is 56-70 videos and 14 streams a week.

Even if you meant every 24 hours it takes 30 seconds to fact check your bullshit wrong. 

 

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Unless I’ve missed something @phil_igp anything above silver status has a charge?

What was the thinking behind a tiered system, if it’s to support the real streamers and out the fakes why is there basically package deals?
I’m sorry but you can’t claim to be running at a loss and still yet to reveal who’s financing this and then offer package deals. 
I had heard of you and I do like alot of your views on streaming but that doesn’t mean this will do any good 

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6 minutes ago, Xbobmad said:

Are you going to check what you just said or just make it up?

4-5 videos and one stream every 12 hours is 56-64 videos and 14 streams a week.

Even if you meant every 24 hours it takes 30 seconds to fact check your bullshit wrong. 

 

is not bs or wrong he loses easy £2k 24hrs 7x2=£14k I sad easy he lose £10k a week £10000x52=£520k a year 

 

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Forgot to add

What is your stance on let’s say people who prove they are using real money even if it’s all affiliate, yet they promote shady casinos who can be even worse to the normal player and the practices they employ?

They can be even worse than the fake streamers 

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On 31/07/2021 at 13:18, Xbobmad said:

Are you going to check what you just said or just make it up?

4-5 videos and one stream every 12 hours is 56-70 videos and 14 streams a week.

Even if you meant every 24 hours it takes 30 seconds to fact check your bullshit wrong. 

 

Surprised your here commenting mate - there is no free giveaway on at the moment hahahahaha

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1 hour ago, Eaves21 said:

No mate not closed took it offline to update some legal terms and conditions 

Are you adding a disclaimer to say although verified, it does not prove 100% that steamers are playing with their own funds 🙂

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3 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

Surprised your here commenting mate - there is no free giveaway on at the moment hahahahaha

he got kick out from Bandit forum now he come here to make drama😂  his protecting Chip all over forums 🤮

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17 minutes ago, Gkell727 said:

I said the exact same thing. Yet mine didn’t get the seal of approval 😂😂

I have to ask - how did you phrase it though hahaha

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13 minutes ago, Eaves21 said:

Sent this by a friend. I always believed In rosh 

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Does that mean you will verify him 🙂

Would be funny if he actual went through the verification though

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14 hours ago, Eaves21 said:

Hahahaha just imagine he was legit. We would all die before that happens tho 😂

did you ask other streamers on your list how they feel to be on the same list with streamers playing on House Money?

I know some of your list streamers are not happy about it, and they think of removing their names

 

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20 hours ago, andywilliams1187 said:

Surprised your here commenting mate - there is no free giveaway on at the moment hahahahaha

Bit rude, think my last proper comment was on your graphics card problem, but hey it's no problem 👍

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