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Currently a protest going on outside of the Israeli Embassy in London. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w5000YkKl8

 

What are everyone's thoughts on this never ending conflict? 

 

I would assume despite the threats of a full scale war that it will end in another ceasefire, until the next time. It seems this time more so than previously that Israel are receiving widespread condemnation. Are we to suddenly believe that Hamas and Hezbollah are the "good guys"? The Hamas propaganda machine is certainly whirring to great effect presently, airing those civilian deaths to the world. They seem to be missing out the part where they are almost certainly using civilian shields and are just as responsible if not more so than the Israelis. The Israelis are of course contributing to this condemnation of themselves, the media agency buildings that they destroyed last night seemed unnecessary, they did so knowingly too they supposedly warned Al Jazeera to evacuate the building an hour before bombing it. I would suspect that much more of Palestine is going to be flattened before it ends this time, as the current claim is that Hamas are now manufacturing the rockets inside of the country and not just getting them from Iran.

 

A large number of US Politicians seem to be coming out and speaking out against Israel this time round, yet they are still sharing military technology, supplying them and contributing towards their military budget each year. It also seems quite plausible that the US are allowing it in another bid to agitate Iran into conflict. 

 

Anyway, my one takeaway from this is that the Iron Dome is absolutely incredible. 90%+ success rate in destroying the Palestinian rockets before they impact and now it even has lasers that shoot down the smaller projectiles such as mortars! 

 

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43 minutes ago, Denman said:

Currently a protest going on outside of the Israeli Embassy in London. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w5000YkKl8

 

What are everyone's thoughts on this never ending conflict? 

 

I would assume despite the threats of a full scale war that it will end in another ceasefire, until the next time. It seems this time more so than previously that Israel are receiving widespread condemnation. Are we to suddenly believe that Hamas and Hezbollah are the "good guys"? The Hamas propaganda machine is certainly whirring to great effect presently, airing those civilian deaths to the world. They seem to be missing out the part where they are almost certainly using civilian shields and are just as responsible if not more so than the Israelis. The Israelis are of course contributing to this condemnation of themselves, the media agency buildings that they destroyed last night seemed unnecessary, they did so knowingly too they supposedly warned Al Jazeera to evacuate the building an hour before bombing it. I would suspect that much more of Palestine is going to be flattened before it ends this time, as the current claim is that Hamas are now manufacturing the rockets inside of the country and not just getting them from Iran.

 

A large number of US Politicians seem to be coming out and speaking out against Israel this time round, yet they are still sharing military technology, supplying them and contributing towards their military budget each year. It also seems quite plausible that the US are allowing it in another bid to agitate Iran into conflict. 

 

Anyway, my one takeaway from this is that the Iron Dome is absolutely incredible. 90%+ success rate in destroying the Palestinian rockets before they impact and now it even has lasers that shoot down the smaller projectiles such as mortars! 

 

A lot of the Nations which are now  condemning Israel are the ones who were responsible for the state coming into existence  in 1948.   Anybody that thinks Israel is  going to put up with missiles being targeted at it and it not responding is living in cuckoo land. 

I am sure that Israel is not going to stop this time until it  takes out a lot of the the firepower  at the disposal of these groups.

In the past  the fire from Israel  has stopped when they not sending over missiles   this time I think the Israeli politicians want to act hardball.

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5 minutes ago, ColourMeUp said:

I think anyone who knows the history of it all would agree Israel are scum. 

 

 

I do not know why you think it is so clear cut. 

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11 minutes ago, 4houghts said:

Could you imagine the headlines now if trump was in office 🤾

The big point missed is that non of this was going on during Trumps term in office and some of the more moderate Arab nations actually recognised Israel  for the first time.  

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Sadly I think history will keep repeating itself with regards this conflict. Hate is a strong emotion which takes generations sometimes to go away. Unless something like a full scale war occurs nothing will change it will be rinse and repeat. Religion can be a good influence but often it is a justification for/cause of a lot of hatred. Imagine being on either side and seeing one of your parents or children killed? That is going to take some getting over.

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2 hours ago, philinvicta said:

A lot of the Nations which are now  condemning Israel are the ones who were responsible for the state coming into existence  in 1948.   Anybody that thinks Israel is  going to put up with missiles being targeted at it and it not responding is living in cuckoo land. 

I am sure that Israel is not going to stop this time until it  takes out a lot of the the firepower  at the disposal of these groups.

In the past  the fire from Israel  has stopped when they not sending over missiles   this time I think the Israeli politicians want to act hardball.

So whats your thoughts?

 

Looks like your trying to get a bit of a rise here...

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3 minutes ago, Sgt_bilk0 said:

So whats your thoughts?

 

Looks like your trying to get a bit of a rise here...

 

If it worked, considering your advanced years, perhaps we should start calling him philinviagra.

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21 minutes ago, Sgt_bilk0 said:

So whats your thoughts?

 

Looks like your trying to get a bit of a rise here...

Partition never works  you only have to look at India /Pakistan    Northern Ireland/ Eire    Israel/Palestine           North/South Korea    Cyprus.

It will inevitably lead to conflict especially when the partition is done  with religion involved.  The common factor in a lot of these (not all) partition events is British involvement.

 

In this case the Israelis have  one of the most efficient fighting forces in the world  and the leaders of Hamas seem to be firing  a lot of  ordnance  which is outdated  and is not getting through the Israeli defences.  Israel seems to have the intelligence as to where most of the Hamas leaders are living or based and is taking the option of  targeting and killing them. No doubt they have access  to a lot of US technology as the missile seem to be highly targeted.  The Israelis have not called up  a big reserve force just to ruin their week end .

If the United Nations have done nothing about China and Russian encroachment  into other territories   they are unlikely to do anything  to stop this other than asking the Israelis to stop. They have certainly done nothing to stop Israel from grabbing land  so far.  

You like me are old enough to remember the Golan Heights  which were taken during the six day war    and are still Israeli occupied now  so it is not as if this is anything new.

 

 

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2 hours ago, philinvicta said:

Partition never works  you only have to look at India /Pakistan    Northern Ireland/ Eire    Israel/Palestine           North/South Korea    Cyprus.

It will inevitably lead to conflict especially when the partition is done  with religion involved.  The common factor in a lot of these (not all) partition events is British involvement.

 

In this case the Israelis have  one of the most efficient fighting forces in the world  and the leaders of Hamas seem to be firing  a lot of  ordnance  which is outdated  and is not getting through the Israeli defences.  Israel seems to have the intelligence as to where most of the Hamas leaders are living or based and is taking the option of  targeting and killing them. No doubt they have access  to a lot of US technology as the missile seem to be highly targeted.  The Israelis have not called up  a big reserve force just to ruin their week end .

If the United Nations have done nothing about China and Russian encroachment  into other territories   they are unlikely to do anything  to stop this other than asking the Israelis to stop. They have certainly done nothing to stop Israel from grabbing land  so far.  

You like me are old enough to remember the Golan Heights  which were taken during the six day war    and are still Israeli occupied now  so it is not as if this is anything new.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Sgt_bilk0 said:

Thats was the crowd when they heard theree was an XL TGC hoody on the go 😉

Im gonna be planning the gesh thing soon, Easterhouse has had another rona outbreak so they have been delayed reopening again.

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