Turpin Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Came across this YT video (posted Jan' 2021, apologies if this is old news for some) that IMO objectively proves that magnets are used in Lightning Roulette. As/if this is the case, one could argue that the r' ball can be manipulated/controlled to land on a certain number or table section based on the total player betting amounts to maximise casino profit. Subjectively, (this notion is unproven/has no proof) with r' ball control, players could be 'allowed' to win at the LR table based on a 'player profile model' that is calculated to ensure greater profits over time... This is my first post, am far more comfortable as a 'lurker' > I joined (probably temporarily) as this video should be of interest and want to see the response from a clued up (mostly gambling related forum.. Happy Easter to one & all 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrightmeow Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solario333 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 There is no question that the Live roulette is not random. It merely acts as a slot machine paying out a specific amount calculates against the RTP using a RNG process. Just the same as a slot . Its not real roulette and is magnetised to meet the overall mathematics of the theoretical return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groundiskey Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 @Turpin It's common knowledge anything gamble related is manipulated to a degree, nobody wins all the time and that is the risk the punter takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryans_slots Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Turpin said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4C7MBZoGY4 Came across this YT video (posted Jan' 2021, apologies if this is old news for some) that IMO objectively proves that magnets are used in Lightning Roulette. As/if this is the case, one could argue that the r' ball can be manipulated/controlled to land on a certain number or table section based on the total player betting amounts to maximise casino profit. Subjectively, (this notion is unproven/has no proof) with r' ball control, players could be 'allowed' to win at the LR table based on a 'player profile model' that is calculated to ensure greater profits over time... This is my first post, am far more comfortable as a 'lurker' > I joined (probably temporarily) as this video should be of interest and want to see the response from a clued up (mostly gambling related forum.. Happy Easter to one & all Ask yourself this tho; If you played it and got your number to 500x won a cool $80,000 approx would it be rigged then? Would you post this? perhaps not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownman24 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 These threads kill me, the house is favourite in any casino game and simply do not need to be rigged. We are all big boys let’s take our losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBingoKingx Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Isnt this topic just the difference about rigged and predetermined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbucks1983 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 This game has an RTP doesn't it? I thought it was accepted based on that they could 'help the spin a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordlad Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I am more shocked at the dealer being able to have about 6 different accents at the same time lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBingoKingx Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Brownman24 said: These threads kill me, the house is favourite in any casino game and simply do not need to be rigged. We are all big boys let’s take our losses Look fair enough but it is ofcourse impossible for a ball to land that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBingoKingx Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, bigbucks1983 said: This game has an RTP doesn't it? I thought it was accepted based on that they could 'help the spin a little. 97,3% - same as normal roulette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbucks1983 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, TheBingoKingx said: 97,3% - same as normal roulette. Lightening Roulette? Thought it had different but I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBingoKingx Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Just now, bigbucks1983 said: Lightening Roulette? Thought it had different but I stand corrected. For straightups apparantely it is different! Used to say its 97,3% but thats adjusted down to 97,1% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdust Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 lol they dont need to cheat, these games were designed for them to win in the long. Realistically you're supposed to run when your up but nobody does and that's how they'll keep on winning. As for the ball sitting between 20/14, it looks like it found the 0.000000000000000000000001% chance of that happening and we were all lucky to see it. I feel lucky and will put £20 on number 20 for good luck. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 hours ago, salfordlad said: I am more shocked at the dealer being able to have about 6 different accents at the same time lol Eastern European crossed with a redneck from the Deep South 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 hours ago, TheBingoKingx said: Look fair enough but it is ofcourse impossible for a ball to land that way. Stop being offensive, your upsetting me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacko Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: Eastern European crossed with a redneck from the Deep South He's a right ugly fucker that one, its usually wee dollybirds that work on those roulette thingys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Blacko said: He's a right ugly fucker that one, its usually wee dollybirds that work on those roulette thingys. I don’t discriminate, anyone can take my money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordlad Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: Eastern European crossed with a redneck from the Deep South Bit of Aussie with a hint of geordie too ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salfordlad Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I dont get the fuss a split pays 17 to 1 so anyone with money on either 20 or 14 wins at those odds. Simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turpin Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 The proof: https://youtu.be/f4C7MBZoGY4 Am really surprised that the video and topic did not gain more traction among the forum members. Did you all know (beyond a suspicion) that LR was predetermined and used magnets to achieve this predetermined outcome? This video clearly provides evidential proof of the use of magnets.. Is this (predetermined & magnets) acceptable to players and has this been disclosed by Evolution? If you look at the LR description on the Evolution website the closest one gets to disclosure is a mention of: 'advanced RNG gameplay' but nothing more of substance.. Have a look yourself: https://www.evolution.com/our-games/lightning-roulette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbucks1983 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Turpin said: The proof: https://youtu.be/f4C7MBZoGY4 Am really surprised that the video and topic did not gain more traction among the forum members. Did you all know (beyond a suspicion) that LR was predetermined and used magnets to achieve this predetermined outcome? This video clearly provides evidential proof of the use of magnets.. Is this (predetermined & magnets) acceptable to players and has this been disclosed by Evolution? If you look at the LR description on the Evolution website the closest one gets to disclosure is a mention of: 'advanced RNG gameplay' but nothing more of substance.. Have a look yourself: https://www.evolution.com/our-games/lightning-roulette This sort of thing has been done to death mate so probably didn't get the interest you'd hoped for. People would still gamble on it even if they admitted it was predetermined and used magnets. The RNG thing I think is to do with picking the lightening numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUKHackz Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 @Turpin It's no different to the auto roulette which has been around much longer, it clearly states in the patent about electro-magnets which I shared years ago, think of LR as a slot machine, a big RNG generator, that's all it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 16 hours ago, MrUKHackz said: @Turpin It's no different to the auto roulette which has been around much longer, it clearly states in the patent about electro-magnets which I shared years ago, think of LR as a slot machine, a big RNG generator, that's all it is. Fuck that. Clearly magnets at play. Complete rip off. Obviously pre determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 @Turpin I can’t believe people aren’t talking about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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