dwa40 Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 If you play every hand correctly with correct hits, sticks, splits and double downs in the long run you will lose 1% of all stakes. So for e.g you play £1000 in £10 flat staking will lose £10 on average. The percentage will be met in the long term. If you can card count you can be 2-3% in your favour but the land casinos will politely say not to comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 hours ago, dwa40 said: When they say gambling is a mugs game there not wrong. Affiliation streamers are gambling for free with their 10-20% losses covered by sign ups. Found out today that my losses on Party casino which are substantial 15% when to a streamers direct via signup links. So I am tens of thousands down while an affiliate has made around 2k in under a year. Who is gambling and why should affiliates get the cash risk free. Keep in this mind when watching YT they are gambling close to risk free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, VillaLad said: Are you some kind of idiot? Nobody is forcing you to sign up with the “middleman” and if you gambled correctly then maybe you might get paid. There is absolutely no point in doing your bollocks at an online casino and then moaning that you can’t win, the system is rigged etc etc ffs I’ve always thought that people who use affiliate links are looking for a fall guy should they inevitably lose. It’s the one occasion I actually feel for streamers. Sort of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andywilliams1187 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, dwa40 said: If you play every hand correctly with correct hits, sticks, splits and double downs in the long run you will lose 1% of all stakes. So for e.g you play £1000 in £10 flat staking will lose £10 on average. The percentage will be met in the long term. If you can card count you can be 2-3% in your favour but the land casinos will politely say not to comeback. The house edge with blackjack is closer to 2% but it depends on many different variables: Decks used/splits allowed/double downs on any cards/if a dealer must check the second card if the first is an Ace/deck penetration If your a serious blackjack player all of these need to be considered to get the true edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwa40 Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 Definitely is. Did you know if you add all the numbers on the roulette wheel it comes to 666 and the no so not known fact that the American roulette wheel with the extra zero also comes to 666. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andywilliams1187 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, dwa40 said: Definitely is. Did you know if you add all the numbers on the roulette wheel it comes to 666 and the no so not known fact that the American roulette wheel with the extra zero also comes to 666. Hahahaha why would anyone think that the two wheels dont add up to the same? It's called the deviks wheel for a reason. You could have 15 0s on there and it would still be the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwa40 Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, andywilliams1187 said: The house edge with blackjack is closer to 2% but it depends on many different variables: Decks used/splits allowed/double downs on any cards/if a dealer must check the second card if the first is an Ace/deck penetration If your a serious blackjack player all of these need to be considered to get the true edge True hence why players avoid 8 decks and why online prefer it with around 60% of the cards before shuffle. So with that in mind 2% definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andywilliams1187 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, dwa40 said: True hence why players avoid 8 decks and why online prefer it with around 60% of the cards before shuffle. So with that in mind 2% definitely. 100%. Online you cant get a true count due to the deck penetration Land based in the uk it's impossible at most casinos due to autoshufflers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said: penetration Trust you to lower the tone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andywilliams1187 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Gkell727 said: Trust you to lower the tone I'm just saying, the deeper its slid in, the happier you will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, andywilliams1187 said: penetration That’s twice you’ve said that word now. Knew you was into double penetration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUKHackz Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 'People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer.' - Some bloke at the pasty shop, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbucks1983 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 So scrolling 3 pages in 40 seconds im concluding someone has done their balls in and is throwing all the toys out kicking off about everything gambling related instead of taking responsibility. Gotta be a Troll with some of the nonsense I skimmed over. Let's say you lost 10k. Whether it all goes to the casino or some to a streamer you still lost 10k, it ain't coming back. You'd have lost it regardless. Why did you use a streamers link? Free spins, sign up bonus? Heaven forbid they get a kick back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I just get sick and fucking tired of reading threads like this, as if they’re offering something new or insightful or revealing. If you don’t like what casino affiliates do, don’t sign up through their links and don’t watch them. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jok3st3r Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, MrUKHackz said: 'People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer.' - Some bloke at the pasty shop, 2021 I like that quote not sure it was from a pasty boy though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbucks1983 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, dwa40 said: When they say gambling is a mugs game there not wrong. Affiliation streamers are gambling for free with their 10-20% losses covered by sign ups. Found out today that my losses on Party casino which are substantial 15% when to a streamers direct via signup links. So I am tens of thousands down while an affiliate has made around 2k in under a year. Who is gambling and why should affiliates get the cash risk free. Keep in this mind when watching YT they are gambling close to risk free. Thats not really how affiliation works or how the payments they receive are calculated. They don't just get a flat fee of what you lose, its aggregated across all their players in a lot of instances and depends on the deal they have with the casino. For instance they might just be paid x fee per person that signs up and what they win or lose after has no consequence. There are far more insidious arrangements that occur that allow streamers to play risk free while perpetrating real money. You had the ability to sign up through someone you saw on you tube so you must have visited their website to do so since I dont think affiliation links have been allowed on videos for a while. You then found this website to make the post. You have the capacity to do all that and claimed knowledge of gambling but dont know how affiliation works or cant read the Ts & Cs when signing up? This is either a Troll thread or you live under a rock or something? Bloody pointless discussion. Edited February 15, 2021 by bigbucks1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jok3st3r Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chair Slots said: I just get sick and fucking tired of reading threads like this, as if they’re offering something new or insightful or revealing. Well don't sign up to an affiliates forum and definitely don't read those threads.... job done. just kidding Mr Chair Slots 2 minutes ago, Chair Slots said: If you don’t like what casino affiliates do, don’t sign up through their links and don’t watch them. Job done. The thing is there is always people new to the world of online streaming/slots/affiliation so they probably don't understand it fully. Took me a while tbh lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andywilliams1187 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, MrUKHackz said: 'People fear what they don't understand and hate what they can't conquer.' - Some bloke at the pasty shop, 2021 Fear. False Evidence Appearing Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwa40 Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 One of them is the gambler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaLad Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, dwa40 said: One of them is the gambler. My moneys on the old bloke gambling with his life every time he shags her 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealwintersoldier Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, VillaLad said: My moneys on the old bloke gambling with his life every time he shags her She looks like she's paying him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB91 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 This thread is fucking mental. More misinformation here than a right wing youtube channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaLad Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, RB91 said: This thread is fucking mental. More misinformation here than a right wing youtube channel. It’s not the 1st of its kind is it and it deffo won’t be the last on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB91 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, VillaLad said: It’s not the 1st of its kind is it and it deffo won’t be the last on this forum. Certainly not. I actually thought I was logged into BIAM when I started reading this pish 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 For any guests reading this who cannot be bothered to sign in I will put it simply for you. ALL GAMBLING GAMES HAVE AN EDGE IN THE HOUSES FAVOUR. THIS MEANS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO DEAL CAN BE PAID SLOT PROVIDERS CAN EARN THEIR COMMISSION TO PAY THEIR STAFF. ON TOP OF THIS BUILDINGS NEED TO BE PAID FOR AND A PROFIT IS WANTED. THIS IS THE REASON SHOPS DO NOT SELL YOU STUFF AT THE SAME PRICE THEY PAY FOR IT !! AFFILIATES ARE JUST THE EQUIVALENT OF THE SANDWICH SIGN GUY WHO HAPPEN TO GET A COMMISSION BASED ON WHETHER YOU FOLLOW THE SIGN AND SIGN UP TO A CASINO. IF YOU CANNOT ACCEPT LOSING THEN DO NOT GAMBLE. SIGNING UP THROUGH AN AFFILIATE DOES NOT BENEFIT YOU NOR DOES IT MEAN THAT YOU WILL GET WORSE RESULTS TO COVER MONEY PAID TO AFFILIATES. AFFILIATION is no different to insurance brokers getting a cut of money you pay to companies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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