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Gamblers take all the risk Affiliate streamers none.


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When they say gambling is a mugs game there not wrong.  Affiliation streamers are gambling for free with their 10-20% losses covered by sign ups.  Found out today that my losses on Party casino which are substantial 15% when to a streamers direct via signup links.  So I am tens of thousands down while an affiliate has made around 2k in under a year.  Who is gambling and why should affiliates get the cash risk free.  Keep in this mind when watching YT they are gambling close to risk free.

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So it is ok out of the money pool more middlemen get paid while the gambler gets smaller and smaller amounts?  Gambling used to be about luck many years ago.  Today you win or lose depending on how much you spend and potentially will gamble via algorithms.  I lost a lot of money but luckily not a mug in life and know how to make money without mugging people off.  There is a saying avoid people who are shaking your hand while at the same time kicking you in the bollocks.  I also don't appreciate streamers misleading the public especially people vulnerable with gambling issues with no risk gambling at big stakes and masquerading the lies with 'showing' the accounts.  The real accounts should be the affiliate accounts with 50k+ a year with unofficial bonuses like Lil Devil where the illusion from a few days was revealed and hardly anyone noticed.  What a scam with BTG gaming 🙂

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44 minutes ago, dwa40 said:

So it is ok out of the money pool more middlemen get paid while the gambler gets smaller and smaller amounts?  Gambling used to be about luck many years ago.  Today you win or lose depending on how much you spend and potentially will gamble via algorithms.  I lost a lot of money but luckily not a mug in life and know how to make money without mugging people off.  There is a saying avoid people who are shaking your hand while at the same time kicking you in the bollocks.  I also don't appreciate streamers misleading the public especially people vulnerable with gambling issues with no risk gambling at big stakes and masquerading the lies with 'showing' the accounts.  The real accounts should be the affiliate accounts with 50k+ a year with unofficial bonuses like Lil Devil where the illusion from a few days was revealed and hardly anyone noticed.  What a scam with BTG gaming 🙂

What streamer says that you HAVE to sign up by there links? It’s up to the person if they choose to join a casino via a sign up link nobody else. The streamers are basically just adverts for the casinos so of course they will get paid on sign ups via there links that’s how advertising works. If you gamble and can’t take the loss then I suggest you stop gambling.

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Streamers are just adverts for the casinos.  If this is true then are breaking rules via GC, YouTube and other streaming platforms.  Live chat shows that most believe it is genuine which is not good as if someone signs up via link the chances are they are swallowing the loss 100% in comparison to the streamer who is compensated.  

The point is when someone signs up are they aware the streamer losses are paid for and secondly where does it statebon the gambling site future losses by the gambler go to the streamer at anything between 5-15%?  Most assume all goes to casino.

Gambling is becoming scammy especially since online as games have to be rigged to pay the bills.  Check online casino turnover it wouldnt be viable if roulette and blackjack played to the odds it has to be skimmed to make viable.  Why should the gambler feel more losses to pay for 3rd parties to get their share first.

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On TV a 'P' on the screen means product placement and means the product is endorsed so in a way like an advert but not so obvious as is part of a show.  But the watcher is aware of for e.g a fishing rod was well reviewed but the company paid for that review.  

With the streamer and live chat/comments it is believed the wins/losses are genuine but not in comparison to the gambler watching.  Many gamblers are not aware that the losses are part and parcel of the deal with streamers.  Has a streamer really lost 5k if getting that 5k back in affliation in exchange for streaming?  The gambler and streamer are not playing by the same rules but only one is aware of the full rules.  Gambling addiction is a very serious issue especially in UK with the culture we have. The UK government full well know the corruption of GC/Online casinos to the point it is now threatening a very vulnerable economy and is impacting on around 2 million plus people directly or non directly.

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6 minutes ago, HenryThelegend said:

Affiliates don't gamble. Its just a business for them. Once you understand that, watching them is pointless.

Are you trying to tell me affiliates get some kind of monetary compensation for their work? I am disgusted. We should hang Nick and Chip and Bandit from the highest poles we can find!

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Noone is saying monetary compensation shouldn't happen but shouldn't the casino pay them not the consumer (gambler) who is getting a worse deal to pay for affliation.  If someone offered you a job and said because I found you this vacancy you have to pay 15% of your wage till job ends which could be years is that fair.  

The streamers imo are detached from the reality is some of this money is on the back of someone's misery.  Gambling companies and affiliates don't get rich from responsible gamblers and most streamers with 2k hands on blackjack, 2k roulette spins and £10 spins every 5 seconds on slots is not responsible gambling.  

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1 minute ago, dwa40 said:

Noone is saying monetary compensation shouldn't happen but shouldn't the casino pay them not the consumer (gambler) who is getting a worse deal to pay for affliation.  If someone offered you a job and said because I found you this vacancy you have to pay 15% of your wage till job ends which could be years is that fair.  

The streamers imo are detached from the reality is some of this money is on the back of someone's misery.  Gambling companies and affiliates don't get rich from responsible gamblers and most streamers with 2k hands on blackjack, 2k roulette spins and £10 spins every 5 seconds on slots is not responsible gambling.  

Your comparison makes no sense. It is the casino paying them. You lose £10k the casino gives the streamer £1k. They have now made £9k off you, you haven’t had to pay the extra £1k on top (as in your scenario) and it puts you at no disadvantage whatsoever .

You choose to gamble £10k whether you win or lose has nothing to do with the casinos arrangement win the person that introduced you to them. If you think otherwise then I’m sorry, you are simply wrong. 

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2 minutes ago, Tricky0212 said:

Your comparison makes no sense. It is the casino paying them. You lose £10k the casino gives the streamer £1k. They have now made £9k off you, you haven’t had to pay the extra £1k on top (as in your scenario) and it puts you at no disadvantage whatsoever .

You choose to gamble £10k whether you win or lose has nothing to do with the casinos arrangement win the person that introduced you to them. If you think otherwise then I’m sorry, you are simply wrong. 

He doesnt understand how things exactly work in this business or even gambling in general. He thinks he gets lower RTP because streamers get % of the revenue or something. 😂

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8 minutes ago, dwa40 said:

Noone is saying monetary compensation shouldn't happen but shouldn't the casino pay them not the consumer (gambler) who is getting a worse deal to pay for affliation.  If someone offered you a job and said because I found you this vacancy you have to pay 15% of your wage till job ends which could be years is that fair.  

The streamers imo are detached from the reality is some of this money is on the back of someone's misery.  Gambling companies and affiliates don't get rich from responsible gamblers and most streamers with 2k hands on blackjack, 2k roulette spins and £10 spins every 5 seconds on slots is not responsible gambling.  

Why would the casino pay them though? Its risk free if they do it for affiliation as it gives the streamer the kick to get more sign ups mate.

Also the job thing is a bad example as that's how a lot of recuiters/head hunters work. A fixed fee for recruiting someone, with a parachute bonus for the recruiter based on length of service etc.

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Disagree at the disadvantage bit.  Why should gamblers pay 3rd parties through losses.  Imagine if it didn't happen RTP on slots could be 97%, straight games of roulette and blackjack instead of manipulated outcomes to cover costs of casinos.  In my case I could be 10k+ better off if played with fairer games than what is currently offered.

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2 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

Every job agency do this 🤦‍♂️

Yep every recruiter has done it to me. A fee for placing me then extra fees depending on how long I stay with the company.

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7 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

Every job agency do this 🤦‍♂️

 

4 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

Yep every recruiter has done it to me. A fee for placing me then extra fees depending on how long I stay with the company.

Most of the jobs go thru job agencies actually at least in my country and this his exactly how they make money, hahaha this guy.
Hmm where should we put our new friend...
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The end of all economies is always when people doing little or nothing get paid.  Think about it you work hard for 40 hours from a job agency and pay some of your wages for a person sitting on their backside picking up a phone and speaking for a few minutes.  

People are getting used to being mugged off and accept it as it's the system.   In the end everyone ends up with nothing because too many realise being the middleman is where the money is and not in hard work.

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