kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Hello Guys, I started my journey with online betting just a few days ago and i decided to start with small money. I won my first 3 bets and after that i got fraud. I won another 5 times but all games they marked as lost and they took my money! This is unbelievable how they can do something like that! I called them but the lady said they cant take this responsibility and all is via live chat. The problem is the live chat is not working ! How can i get my money back? What can i do? I have all in the history transaction! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howfin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Sounds a bit unbelievable really, but essentially there's not enough information in your post to make any sort of comment on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades111 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 what were your bets that you say are winners that they deemed losers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, howfin said: Sounds a bit unbelievable really, but essentially there's not enough information in your post to make any sort of comment on this Yes it sounds unreal but it happened 5 times within 2 days! Example below. My choice was Queensland Cowboys and they win, please to see below! I have proof for all games like football, basketball, ice hockey, rugby. All are marked as lost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howfin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 They only won by 12 points, your bet is -20 on the handicap, looks correct that it lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Shades111 said: what were your bets that you say are winners that they deemed losers ? Football,ice hockey, rugby, basketball. All should be marked as winnings! but they did all like losers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Yeah if your handicap betting a win won’t always be enough? If you bet on them to win -20 they need to win by more than 20.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, howfin said: They only won by 12 points, your bet is -20 on the handicap, looks correct that it lost Okey, it make sense now! Thank you for that! What about this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howfin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Gkell727 said: Yeah if your handicap betting a win won’t always be enough? If you bet on them to win -20 they need to win by more than 20.... Yes, probably i missed that fact but i really appreciate it! It make sense now! Awesome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades111 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, kevinbray said: Football,ice hockey, rugby, basketball. All should be marked as winnings! but they did all like losers! can you screenshot any of the bets so we can see , its rare they settle bets incorrectly and you are saying they have settled FOUR incorrectly , something has to be wrong here . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howfin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 That one would be a hc draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, kevinbray said: Okey, it make sense now! Thank you for that! What about this one? Unbelievably you were 1 point off a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, howfin said: That one would be a hc draw Okey, thank you for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Probably a good idea to close this thread. I’m all for calling out shitty casinos but not fair to use the word fraud when all they did was not pay out on losing bets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades111 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 as i thought , handicap betting , i would stick to standard betting in future if you do not understand how handicap betting works , just my little bit of advice . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbray Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, Shades111 said: as i thought , handicap betting , i would stick to standard betting in future if you do not understand how handicap betting works , just my little bit of advice . Yes, thats a good point, thank you! Good Day Guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 @kevinbray I would give up gambling all together if i was you. Your total lack of understanding means you should avoid at all costs. Also You have written that Paddy Power have defrauded you when they clearly have not. @MrUKHackz I would advise removal of title of this thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Just now, philinvicta said: @kevinbray I would give up gambling all together if i was you. Your total lack of understanding means you should avoid at all costs. Bit harsh mate. As he said in the first post he’s only just started betting. When I first started betting I needed someone to explain all this stuff to me. Just call it a learning curve @kevinbray and good luck on next bet. As I said in a previous post though it’s not fair to call casinos out and use words like fraud without investigating properly first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: Bit harsh mate. As he said in the first post he’s only just started betting. When I first started betting I needed someone to explain all this stuff to me. Just call it a learning curve @kevinbray and good luck on next bet. As I said in a previous post though it’s not fair to call casinos out and use words like fraud without investigating properly first. I have seen plenty of this type over the years and the total lack of knowledge only ever ends with them doing their dough and accusing firms of being crooked. If he had spoke to Paddy Power chat they would have explained it as people have above that he backed the handicap and it was not covered. He did not think before posting that this is a multi billion pound company quoted on the stock,markets that is going to rip him and only him off. If their was a wrongly settled bet then there would be evidence of people complaining all over the net let alone 4. His first instinct is to come here and suggest Paddy Power Fraud when he could of come along and said help please what am I missing. I stand by my advice that gambling is not for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkell727 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, philinvicta said: I have seen plenty of this type over the years and the total lack of knowledge only ever ends with them doing their dough and accusing firms of being crooked. If he had spoke to Paddy Power chat they would have explained it as people have above that he backed the handicap and it was not covered. He did not think before posting that this is a multi billion pound company quoted on the stock,markets that is going to rip him and only him off. If their was a wrongly settled bet then there would be evidence of people complaining all over the net let alone 4. His first instinct is to come here and suggest Paddy Power Fraud when he could of come along and said help please what am I missing. I stand by my advice that gambling is not for him We’ve all made mistakes man. He’s not come on selling a roulette strategy so he’s all right with me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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howfin Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Im actually sickend by this thread and shocked to my very core. Poor bray boy from down under found a new home and was driven away by vile bullies I hope the moderation team are true to their values and dispense swift divine justice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Gkell727 said: We’ve all made mistakes man. He’s not come on selling a roulette strategy so he’s all right with me His next question will be why did they deduct money from my winnings when my bet won something called a Rule 4 all bookmakers are crooked. I have seen it so often in my local shop with people that bet all the time and they still do not get Rule 4 deductions. When you say " if I backed the outsider of 3 and the front two favs where pulled out you would still be happy to pay me out" then add would you like to lay some of my bets they look at you like you have two heads. One reason I would not work in a betting shop is because there are too many people who are quick to scream crooked when they do not have a clue and you have to put up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: We’ve all made mistakes man. He’s not come on selling a roulette strategy so he’s all right with me I also have a roulette strategy that I was given years ago by a rich man and I am not sharing it with anybody 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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