Brownman24 3,851 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WaterFox said: @Gkell727- And, no, I am not after flogging a system. My intention here is as I said at the beginning; to see if anyone is in interested in automation of roulette play. I'm happy to help code it, if they want, but it's really my point to understand how you play. I watch RocknRolla on YouTube a lot and can't fathom out his staking and number choices but it's really enjoyable to watch. Hence joining. I guess I am after seeing your own strategies, not selling you mine. Sorry, you have got me completely wrong. He's not really though is he? You started this thread with the objective of getting something out of us. Fuck off and go home. Edited June 21, 2020 by Brownman24 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaterFox 14 Posted June 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: I’m interested - out of interest how much would you charge me I'd hope that it would pay for itself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,438 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sgt_bilk0 said: I'm sure someone posted this before but remember this? Mate this "slow down" is missing so many frames that you cant see anything really from it. The ball could be rotating so it bounced that way. Edited June 21, 2020 by crazyrightmeow 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,326 Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, WaterFox said: I'd hope that it would pay for itself. I’m quite confident as well. But upfront what would your rates be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaterFox 14 Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brownman24 said: He's not really though is he? You started this thread with the objective of getting something out of us. Fuck off and go home. As you wish. I had come here with the expectation that I'd be able to discuss a strategy and some ideas and maybe approach this with the attitude that we're all trying to win against a group of organisations that all conspire against us. I might not have the perfect system but it works for me. I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success. Perhaps it's too soon to tell but I'm pleased with where I have go to. Sure, I would like your ideas ad your experiences if that's going to help and I'll share my programming experience in return. But, to be honest, from the first post, I've been insulted. I honestly don't think I deserve it but there we are. As you wish, I'll leave. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,438 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, WaterFox said: As you wish. I had come here with the expectation that I'd be able to discuss a strategy and some ideas and maybe approach this with the attitude that we're all trying to win against a group of organisations that all conspire against us. I might not have the perfect system but it works for me. I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success. Perhaps it's too soon to tell but I'm pleased with where I have go to. Sure, I would like your ideas ad your experiences if that's going to help and I'll share my programming experience in return. But, to be honest, from the first post, I've been insulted. I honestly don't think I deserve it but there we are. As you wish, I'll leave. You said you have degree in math and statistic and still dont understand that you cant beat it because of MATH, wow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonin 3,505 Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, WaterFox said: I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,326 Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, WaterFox said: I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success. Good luck to ya lad. If I had a system to beat the casino and had “success” i wouldn’t be kicking around this place I’d have my fist up a supermodels ass on a yacht in the Caribbean beaked off my nut 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,438 Posted June 21, 2020 @Antonin@Sgt_bilk0 Also look at the girls arm on the left, video looks fast forward just before the ball bounces that way so It would make perfect sense why It looks that way. I might be wrong but it looks that way to me. Very crappy video quality tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 17,593 Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, WaterFox said: As you wish. I had come here with the expectation that I'd be able to discuss a strategy and some ideas and maybe approach this with the attitude that we're all trying to win against a group of organisations that all conspire against us. I might not have the perfect system but it works for me. I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success. Perhaps it's too soon to tell but I'm pleased with where I have go to. Sure, I would like your ideas ad your experiences if that's going to help and I'll share my programming experience in return. But, to be honest, from the first post, I've been insulted. I honestly don't think I deserve it but there we are. As you wish, I'll leave. You have been given a hard time, but that's because we get a lot of spam posts with an ulterior motive which are subsequently removed so people are rightly sceptical. You have finally admitted you have or are trialing a system so people are waiting for the ''do you want to buy my system post''. If you were successful you would be the first and would very quickly be known as the Sheldon Cooper of TGC. I wish you luck with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, WaterFox said: As you wish. I had come here with the expectation that I'd be able to discuss a strategy and some ideas and maybe approach this with the attitude that we're all trying to win against a group of organisations that all conspire against us. I might not have the perfect system but it works for me. I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success. Perhaps it's too soon to tell but I'm pleased with where I have go to. Sure, I would like your ideas ad your experiences if that's going to help and I'll share my programming experience in return. But, to be honest, from the first post, I've been insulted. I honestly don't think I deserve it but there we are. As you wish, I'll leave. As a mathematician, you should surely understand that roulette is not a beatable game. It is not even difficult maths. It is a game of pure chance weighted in favour of the house. Any short term success is luck. Long term that is mathematically speaking going to even out and move towards the expected result of a loss. This is why I made those suggestions to you regarding sports betting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Antonin said: That seems like such a fake quote. Next you will be telling me Sir Stephen Hawkings said "Fuck the FOBTs". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt_bilk0 3,754 Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, crazyrightmeow said: @Antonin@Sgt_bilk0 Also look at the girls arm on the left, video looks fast forward just before the ball bounces that way so It would make perfect sense why It looks that way. I might be wrong but it looks that way to me. Very crappy video quality tho. Its all about opinions mate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,438 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Sgt_bilk0 said: Its all about opinions mate True, Im not even saying that its not rigged because it wouldnt surprise me if it is just like almost everything else in this world. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 10,732 Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, WaterFox said: As you wish. I had come here with the expectation that I'd be able to discuss a strategy and some ideas and maybe approach this with the attitude that we're all trying to win against a group of organisations that all conspire against us. I might not have the perfect system but it works for me. I might also not agree with the view that it can't be beat but that's because I have had some success. Perhaps it's too soon to tell but I'm pleased with where I have go to. Sure, I would like your ideas ad your experiences if that's going to help and I'll share my programming experience in return. But, to be honest, from the first post, I've been insulted. I honestly don't think I deserve it but there we are. As you wish, I'll leave. you are taking it hard but believe me when I tell you there are plenty of people on here that are just trying to give you the benefit of their wisdom. Roulette cannot be beaten in the long run as the margin will catch you. You might even play and be ahead over a year it does not mean that you have a system that works it just means the variance has been in your favour and the longer you play the more it will come back to the true odds and you will lose. If you have the degrees in Maths etc you say you do then you should understand it. As I have said many people who are very clever and have access to supercomputers still have not "cracked" it because if they had we would have heard about it by now. I am sure @Gkell727 would tell you to stop wasting your time on a "system" and go spend your money on Cocaine and hookers before you waste it on roulette 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chair Slots 3,014 Posted June 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, WaterFox said: @david1111I don't have a means of predicting the outcome, if that's what you mean by a system. What I do is model the worst, most extreme, cases of the longest losing runs (i.e. where none of the numbers I have placed are spun) and then create ways to manage those. But, as others here have alluded to, there is the possibility of foul play so I am really going to relying on the reliability of the Casino and mean reviewing the Casinos which, thank fully, you do here. The Casinos have been doing this for a long time and I have no doubt that they have developed very devious ways to seduce, convince and trap. How’s this for modeling the worst, most extreme cases of long losing runs? Years and years ago when FOBT roulette came out and I was interested in trying the martingale system on it, I developed a quick computer programme (literally took about 5 minutes) which produced a series of 10,000 random numbers between 0 and 36 in one second. It gave me the longest sequence of odd and even numbers to see if martingale was viable/ profitable within a betting range of £1 and £100. In every single set of 10,000 results it produced several streaks of over 10 odds or evens in a row, proving martingale was not viable. I think one set produced 33 odds in a row which if you doubled your bet every time from a quid, by the time you were placing the 33rd bet your stake would have been larger than America’s national debt! 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 17,593 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Chair Slots said: How’s this for modeling the worst, most extreme cases of long losing runs? Years and years ago when FOBT roulette came out and I was interested in trying the martingale system on it, I developed a quick computer programme (literally took about 5 minutes) which produced a series of 10,000 random numbers between 0 and 36 in one second. It gave me the longest sequence of odd and even numbers to see if martingale was viable/ profitable within a betting range of £1 and £100. In every single set of 10,000 results it produced several streaks of over 10 odds or evens in a row, proving martingale was not viable. I think one set produced 33 odds in a row which if you doubled your bet every time from a quid, by the time you were placing the 33rd bet your stake would have been larger than America’s national debt! Pretty sure most people play roulette on the law of averages and are staggered when they lose after it being due! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonin 3,505 Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Denman said: That seems like such a fake quote. Next you will be telling me Sir Stephen Hawkings said "Fuck the FOBTs". That's not a "fake quote" that what he really said! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 10,732 Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, david1111 said: Pretty sure most people play roulette on the law of averages and are staggered when they lose after it being due! Up Tier 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Antonin said: That's not a "fake quote" that what he really said! Allegedly. It still looks like a fake quote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philinvicta 10,732 Posted June 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chair Slots said: How’s this for modeling the worst, most extreme cases of long losing runs? Years and years ago when FOBT roulette came out and I was interested in trying the martingale system on it, I developed a quick computer programme (literally took about 5 minutes) which produced a series of 10,000 random numbers between 0 and 36 in one second. It gave me the longest sequence of odd and even numbers to see if martingale was viable/ profitable within a betting range of £1 and £100. In every single set of 10,000 results it produced several streaks of over 10 odds or evens in a row, proving martingale was not viable. I think one set produced 33 odds in a row which if you doubled your bet every time from a quid, by the time you were placing the 33rd bet your stake would have been larger than America’s national debt! This also the reason why table limits exist. I think there was something about 19 blacks in a row in Monte Carlo once and by the end people were doing fortunes on Red as to quote @david1111 it was due. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chair Slots 3,014 Posted June 21, 2020 Don't believe every quote you see online folks 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonin 3,505 Posted June 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: @Antonin@Sgt_bilk0 Also look at the girls arm on the left, video looks fast forward just before the ball bounces that way so It would make perfect sense why It looks that way. I might be wrong but it looks that way to me. Very crappy video quality tho. I think you are wrong as I'm pretty sure that video is legit. I agree. It would have been more clear with a better video though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,438 Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Antonin said: I think you are wrong as I'm pretty sure that video is legit. I agree. It would have been more clear with a better video though. Idk, maybe. There are videos with better quality online that show weird bounces on evolution wheels anyways. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites