therealwintersoldier 7,749 Posted June 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: @WaterFox are you ignoring me mate? He's busy creating the platform you asked for! Just finding it difficult to give you the treble 9's you crave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, therealwintersoldier said: He's busy creating the platform you asked for! Just finding it difficult to give you the treble 9's you crave. Very disappointed was banking on it. Back to work I guess 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solario333 11,323 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Denman said: The dude talks about; - The lord of the 5th realm of the far dimensions of space. - Not needing to eat and getting all required calories, vitamins etc from the sun. - Gargling arse oil to cure yourself of coronavirus. - The earth being flat. ....and you're calling him out for thinking online roulette is rigged? Harsh. Ah @Denman the single voice of reason in a world of madness..... of course you must be right . However you have over egged the omelette on this occasion. Online roulette is rigged completely . The balls are obviously magnetic..... said the dude . Edited June 21, 2020 by Solario333 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, Solario333 said: Ah @Denman the single voice of reason in a world of madness..... of course you must be right . However you have over egged the omelette on this occasion. Online roulette is rigged completely . The balls are obviously magnetic..... said the dude . The point of interest for me would be who regulates these online live casino hubs, is the software being independently scrutinised and verified? Are the premises and devices used being regularly inspected and checked? If they are left unsupervised well realistically it would be extremely easy for them to manipulate the results to maximise their profitability. Its probably safe to assume that there is not an independent party monitoring the activity at these venues 24/7 so then it comes down to trust in many ways. Herein lies the problem for many when it comes to trusting online gambling brands, there are far too many stories circulating of casino's screwing users to really establish that level of trust between the average user and the operators. I don't necessarily think that they are cheating to win at the same time I am not certain either, I look at some of the products available now, like CrazyTime where every aspect of it would be easily manipulated and my prediction would be a game like that the betting will be weighted in a way that I would call illogical, eg your average user is going to be placing their biggest bets on the highest odds selections (pachinko and crazy time) so it would make sense for them to have a safeguard in place to avoid those potential astronomical multipliers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 Even if the casinos admitted they used magnets and it was a complete fix there would still be queues of dumb pricks lining up to play. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 17,638 Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: Even if the casinos admitted they used magnets and it was a complete fix there would still be queues of dumb pricks lining up to play. You're right. If you don't trust it don't play. Couldn't be simpler. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 17,638 Posted June 21, 2020 5 hours ago, WaterFox said: Hi, All. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on online roulette probabilities of outcomes when the Casino allows you to bet on zero. To me this implies they no longer have a house edge but, if that's the case, then does the Casino in question have the outcome based on a percentage payout model rather than using an RNG? In other words, if you were to win several times consecutively, would you then start losing to ensure the payout percentage is met, in a similar way to slot machines? Taking away any theories regarding roulette being rigged etc, the house always has the edge. I wouldn't trust any computer roulette as with blackjack, virtual horses or whatever has a so called random Rng. As a matter of interest what do you wish to achieve by all your number crunching as you have already said it's not for a system so in turn your play however calculated will not give you an edge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, david1111 said: You're right. I’m screenshotting this 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, david1111 said: As a matter of interest what do you wish to achieve by all your number crunching Can I answer this please please me me me me my hands up let me answer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jok3st3r 12,378 Posted June 21, 2020 Is it due though? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 17,638 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Gkell727 said: Can I answer this please please me me me me my hands up let me answer Make it so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, david1111 said: Make it so I shouuuuuld. But i won’t, something tells me all will become clear soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 I may not be a maths genius or an academic by any means. But I know bullshit when I see it. I can also see a long con from a mile off. Our new friend doesn’t seem to want to speak to me maybe he knows I’m wise to him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jok3st3r 12,378 Posted June 21, 2020 @Gkell727 Im the gulluble type and like to think the OP is being true and real. Do you think hes one of these "pay me for my roulette beating system" types? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaterFox 14 Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, david1111 said: Taking away any theories regarding roulette being rigged etc, the house always has the edge. I wouldn't trust any computer roulette as with blackjack, virtual horses or whatever has a so called random Rng. As a matter of interest what do you wish to achieve by all your number crunching as you have already said it's not for a system so in turn your play however calculated will not give you an edge @david1111I don't have a means of predicting the outcome, if that's what you mean by a system. What I do is model the worst, most extreme, cases of the longest losing runs (i.e. where none of the numbers I have placed are spun) and then create ways to manage those. But, as others here have alluded to, there is the possibility of foul play so I am really going to relying on the reliability of the Casino and mean reviewing the Casinos which, thank fully, you do here. The Casinos have been doing this for a long time and I have no doubt that they have developed very devious ways to seduce, convince and trap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jok3st3r said: @Gkell727 Im the gulluble type and like to think the OP is being true and real. Do you think hes one of these "pay me for my roulette beating system" types? Pretty convinced that’s his purpose for being here but no offence even if its not he is boring me to tears anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaterFox 14 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) @Gkell727- And, no, I am not after flogging a system. My intention here is as I said at the beginning; to see if anyone is in interested in automation of roulette play. I'm happy to help code it, if they want, but it's really my point to understand how you play. I watch RocknRolla on YouTube a lot and can't fathom out his staking and number choices but it's really enjoyable to watch. Hence joining. I guess I am after seeing your own strategies, not selling you mine. Sorry, you have got me completely wrong. Edited June 21, 2020 by WaterFox 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,463 Posted June 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: Even if the casinos admitted they used magnets and it was a complete fix there would still be queues of dumb pricks lining up to play. And making or buying systems to beat it. 9 minutes ago, Gkell727 said: I may not be a maths genius or an academic by any means. But I know bullshit when I see it. I can also see a long con from a mile off. Our new friend doesn’t seem to want to speak to me maybe he knows I’m wise to him. I knew it from the first post thats why have a good afternoon! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david1111 17,638 Posted June 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, WaterFox said: @david1111I don't have a means of predicting the outcome, if that's what you mean by a system. What I do is model the worst, most extreme, cases of the longest losing runs (i.e. where none of the numbers I have placed are spun) and then create ways to manage those. But, as others here have alluded to, there is the possibility of foul play so I am really going to relying on the reliability of the Casino and mean reviewing the Casinos which, thank fully, you do here. The Casinos have been doing this for a long time and I have no doubt that they have developed very devious ways to seduce, convince and trap. Forget foul play for a minute. You say you are creating ways to manage long losing runs which suggests to me you are trying to obtain an edge to give a possibility of beating the wheel. To me that sounds exactly like a system. I'm not belittling what you do in any way, just trying to understand 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,463 Posted June 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jok3st3r said: @Gkell727 Im the gulluble type and like to think the OP is being true and real. Do you think hes one of these "pay me for my roulette beating system" types? It doesnt even matter, I still think that things like that are stupid to have on a "legit" gambling forum. Some naive bastard will come and read this and believe that you can beat the wheel somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, WaterFox said: My intention here is as I said at the beginning; to see if anyone is in interested in automation of roulette play. I'm happy to help code it I’m interested - out of interest how much would you charge me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WaterFox 14 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, david1111 said: Forget foul play for a minute. You say you are creating ways to manage long losing runs which suggests to me you are trying to obtain an edge to give a possibility of beating the wheel. To me that sounds exactly like a system. I'm not belittling what you do in any way, just trying to understand Yes, I suppose in that sense, I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gkell727 6,339 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, crazyrightmeow said: It doesnt even matter, I still think that things like that are stupid to have on a "legit" gambling forum. Some naive bastard will come and read this and believe that you can beat the wheel somehow. There can’t be a warning sign on everything. People who get duped into shit like that are the reason there’s so not drink on bleach bottles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt_bilk0 3,754 Posted June 21, 2020 I'm sure someone posted this before but remember this? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazyrightmeow 4,463 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Gkell727 said: There can’t be a warning sign on everything. People who get duped into shit like that are the reason there’s so not drink on bleach bottles Sadly so true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
