Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 So this will be a bit of a honest ramble of my current thoughts on working with a casino that approached me offering a few different deals (can't go into that bit too much but not fake money). So I would stream and make videos using their casino with no casino links in chat or under the videos, so I wouldn't be affiliated but basically receive a fee for it. The way that I gamble the fee won't cover my deposits so I wouldn't be freerolling. I like the way I do things in regards to affiliation with my streams and this site but the truth is it doesn't return much. For example this month with all my streams I've had 20 new signups, now multiply that by an amount that isn't over £100 and that is what is supposedly going to cover a full time wage (not myself), a part time wage, freelance wages, website costs and thats before you even think about stream deposits, again I've never really been in it for the money and happy how I do things but with everything going on in the world right now and if I want this site to remain open then offers like the one I had, I just don't think I can turn down. The site is ok, has some cons which I would be honest about, I would never advise to take their welcome offer as it has a cap, when I clicked withdraw it took 4 days to process and actually be in my account which is probably a day more than most. I also don't have to conform to anything i.e some sites want lower stakes, longer footage etc, I can just play how I play. There's already quite a few other channels/streamers playing from this casino. The site is Winstonbet. I'm not really quite sure why I'm posting this, I guess for when people might ask why this casino I would show them this post as its my thought process behind my decision and to what you all think? 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 As ever, we all appreciate your honesty and transparency. I don't see anything wrong with it all. If you're happy with it there's no reason for us not to be. You provide good quality entertainment so you need to do what you feel is right for that to continue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blampy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Yeah as David said fair play for letting people know what’s been offered. If it doesn’t break any of your rules in the way you like to do things then why not. I think the majority like to see you gamble the way you do and are more than happy to see you making the big cash outs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philinvicta Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: So this will be a bit of a honest ramble of my current thoughts on working with a casino that approached me offering a few different deals (can't go into that bit too much but not fake money). So I would stream and make videos using their casino with no casino links in chat or under the videos, so I wouldn't be affiliated but basically receive a fee for it. The way that I gamble the fee won't cover my deposits so I wouldn't be freerolling. I like the way I do things in regards to affiliation with my streams and this site but the truth is it doesn't return much. For example this month with all my streams I've had 20 new signups, now multiply that by an amount that isn't over £100 and that is what is supposedly going to cover a full time wage (not myself), a part time wage, freelance wages, website costs and thats before you even think about stream deposits, again I've never really been in it for the money and happy how I do things but with everything going on in the world right now and if I want this site to remain open then offers like the one I had, I just don't think I can turn down. The site is ok, has some cons which I would be honest about, I would never advise to take their welcome offer as it has a cap, when I clicked withdraw it took 4 days to process and actually be in my account which is probably a day more than most. I also don't have to conform to anything i.e some sites want lower stakes, longer footage etc, I can just play how I play. There's already quite a few other channels/streamers playing from this casino. The site is Winstonbet. I'm not really quite sure why I'm posting this, I guess for when people might ask why this casino I would show them this post as its my thought process behind my decision and to what you all think? I think you have to do what suits you best and at least it would alleviate some of your costs if they are paying you a fee. You will need to be comfortable with it I guess and we would trust you to do what is right. At the end of the day if there is anything wrong with them it will not take people long to call them and you out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howfin Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Offfffffft....... how would they make their money from it though if you're not affiliated? Just via the advertising with the casino on screen? Or would you have links that just arnt in your face like with 21 etc? Personally I dont really care what deals you do privately as long as it doesnt turn into a fuck fest with adverts all over the screen and a huge forum presence. Of course thats my opinion and you shouldnt give a fuck about that as no fudger does these days so do whats best for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, philinvicta said: I think you have to do what suits you best and at least it would alleviate some of your costs if they are paying you a fee. You will need to be comfortable with it I guess and we would trust you to do what is right. At the end of the day if there is anything wrong with them it will not take people long to call them and you out Well thats it, their welcome bonus is poor to say the least, all casinos have pros and cons though and I don't and won't hide from highlighting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, howfin said: Offfffffft....... how would they make their money from it though if you're not affiliated? Just via the advertising with the casino on screen? Or would you have links that just arnt in your face like with 21 etc? Personally I dont really care what deals you do privately as long as it doesnt turn into a fuck fest with adverts all over the screen and a huge forum presence. Of course thats my opinion and you shouldnt give a fuck about that as no fudger does these days so do whats best for you. Yeh just the advertising with their name on screen but no links. No no adverts on screen either except their logo or even a logo that just pops up every so often. And no link or presence on this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: Yeh just the advertising with their name on screen but no links. No no adverts on screen either except their logo or even a logo that just pops up every so often. And no link or presence on this site Will you just give them a trial run or if you sign up are you time commited Edited March 25, 2020 by david1111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, howfin said: Offfffffft....... how would they make their money from it though if you're not affiliated? Just via the advertising with the casino on screen? Or would you have links that just arnt in your face like with 21 etc? Personally I dont really care what deals you do privately as long as it doesnt turn into a fuck fest with adverts all over the screen and a huge forum presence. Of course thats my opinion and you shouldnt give a fuck about that as no fudger does these days so do whats best for you. How can we not value your opinion with your unique horse racing write ups 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howfin Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: Yeh just the advertising with their name on screen but no links. No no adverts on screen either except their logo or even a logo that just pops up every so often. And no link or presence on this site Sounds reasonable. Most people advertise the casino they play on for free just by playing on any given casino, so why not make some scratch from it. You have howfins blessing to proceed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, david1111 said: Will you just give them a trial run or if you sign up are you time commited Yeh its a trial run, I also played them on stream last week but covered their logo as I do with any casino I dont really know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douvan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 You got to do what you gotta do. Anything they can give you saves you a little and there is a little more bread on the table. You don’t beg for like, subs or anything like that which some streamers constantly do. I heartily suspect a lot of people would begrudge you anything, let alone a little extra for yourself. Would you get as many bonuses as you do on 21? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, Douvan said: You got to do what you gotta do. Anything they can give you saves you a little and there is a little more bread on the table. You don’t beg for like, subs or anything like that which some streamers constantly do. I heartily suspect a lot of people would begrudge you anything, let alone a little extra for yourself. Would you get as many bonuses as you do on 21? Cheers man! Nah no deposit bonuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douvan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Rocknrolla said: Cheers man! Nah no deposit bonuses Would that affect the amount of streams you do? I know you don’t rely on them but we both know you do use them frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucy_tgc Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 If you're not so keen on pushing a casino(s) you should think about becoming a Twitch partner, i would have no problems subbing to you to help support the channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellakytta Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Damn, i have very terrible experiences with progressplay limited and definately on my shitlist, but if this keeps your streams alive i guess why not. Just hope you'll never (not saying or meaning you would ever lol) hop into the fake money shit which many streamers do as you're the only one streamers currently im honestly enjoying watching with the real feel of the gambling on your streams. It really helps me staying myself much possible off from casinos, but if i would watch example r*sht*in i just can't do that, not even for a minute, thats not even a gambling stream its some sort of different enterntainment. But yeah, do what you want, in the end its your choose, just don't let your streams or sites die Gotta add, that i've been watching you for years, I couldn't deal with the situation you would end all content for ever Edited March 25, 2020 by hellakytta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, lucy_tgc said: If you're not so keen on pushing a casino(s) you should think about becoming a Twitch partner, i would have no problems subbing to you to help support the channel. I appreciate that! But I guess it would almost feel like donations which I would genuinely appreciate but then feel strange about gambling the way I do and see it as even a little disrespectful, I dont know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryans_slots Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 As you say you never done it for the money well now is your time to do it for the money end of the day you have a family also degen gamblers ain't cheap... If I hadn't already had accounts at the casinos you promote I'd be happy to sign up through you/support the channel/website. Go for it! Your a huge channel all the other big channels have decent affiliation so why can't you? - now is your time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, hellakytta said: Damn, i have very terrible experiences with progressplay limited and definately on my shitlist, but if this keeps your streams alive i guess why not. Just hope you'll never (not saying or meaning you would ever lol) hop into the fake money shit which many streamers do as you're the only one streamers currently im honestly enjoying watching with the real feel of the gambling on your streams. It really helps me staying myself much possible off from casinos, but if i would watch example r*sht*in i just can't do that, not even for a minute, thats not even a gambling stream its some sort of different enterntainment. But yeah, do what you want, in the end its your choose, just don't let your streams or sites die Yeh hackz took one of the progressplay sites to IBAS but again we won't hide anything. Hopefully with the contact I have there now if something like hackz situation happened again then it would be sorted. I would never play with fake, as a real gambler it would be impossible to do anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, ryans_slots said: As you say you never done it for the money well now is your time to do it for the money end of the day you have a family also degen gamblers ain't cheap... If I hadn't already had accounts at the casinos you promote I'd be happy to sign up through you/support the channel/website. Go for it! Your a huge channel all the other big channels have decent affiliation so why can't you? - now is your time. I guess it does come down to the money aspect unfortunately but this way I feel has the least impact on the way I normally do things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4houghts Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) One of the big draws to watching someone is that the money means something to them, Tim Eldrige for example.. one of his random streams where he deposited like £20 and it lasted like 2 hours was some of the best viewing going, you can just tell every spin matters in his voice and actions. I would still watch you if you lowered your stake but I understand that's hard to do as a gambler once you set a benchmark for yourself. The only thing that would rile me up is if I was watching a streamer and they hasn't disclosed where the money came from, quick question do the other streamers that use this site (or other sites with similar deals) spoken to their viewers about these deasl, surely its illegal not to? If I was in your position I would take free money of a casino in a heartbeat. Edited March 25, 2020 by 4houghts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0tsh0t87 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 @Rocknrolla I have already said you don’t push affilation as much as you should . the bandit , fruityslots etc would have made sustainable more than yourself as you have never been one to push affilation which I imagine has effected the way you gamble . if you get a deal which means you can stream and cover some of your loses the. I don’t see a issue as long as they have jumanji 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, 4houghts said: One of the big draws to watching someone is that the money means something to them, Tim Eldrige for example.. one of his random streams where he deposited like £20 and it lasted like 2 hours was some of the best viewing going, you can just tell every spin matters in his voice and actions. I would still watch you if you lowered your stake but I understand that's hard to do as a gambler once you set a benchmark for yourself. The only thing that would rile me up is if I was watching a streamer and they hasn't disclosed where the money came from, quick question do the other streamers that use this site (or other sites with similar deals) spoken to their viewers about these deal, surely its illegal not to? If I was in your position I would take free money of a casino in a heartbeat. Completely agree and remember that stream or even when Sleepy owl deposited £20 and when he raised from 20p to 40p I was genuinely nervous for him and telling him to calm down. Stakes are relative to the person. For me it varies mainly down to my situation, last week I turned £25 deposit limit into 1k and was 10x more nervous betting it then like the other night 1k spins on roulette. Regrading others that use this site or Spinzcasino which is connected only because of the marketing company choosing those brands then no I haven't heard anyone mention anything but then I don't watch their footage all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, lisbonlions67 said: @Rocknrolla I have already said you don’t push affilation as much as you should . the bandit , fruityslots etc would have made sustainable more than yourself as you have never been one to push affilation which I imagine has effected the way you gamble . if you get a deal which means you can stream and cover some of your loses the. I don’t see a issue as long as they have jumanji Haha ffs they have Jumanji! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucy_tgc Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rocknrolla said: I appreciate that! But I guess it would almost feel like donations which I would genuinely appreciate but then feel strange about gambling the way I do and see it as even a little disrespectful, I dont know It's not disrespectful imo it's just another way for you to fund your channel and keep this community going. If you had a sub button no is required to sub to you it's just an option. And for people who have Amazon prime account you get a free monthly sub anyway. Don't feel guilty about it, if it was me i would push casinos and have a sub button. Why not everyone else does it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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