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An interesting stat from the Dr John Campbell  youtube channel was the median age of people who caught covid in Australia was 37   yet they  median age of people who died from covid was 86.  This is the same as in Ireland as  the median age of people who have died is well into the 80s despite the latest increase   in cases  being amongst the younger generation.  the problem is it has got in to nursing homes here again and so it will mean the number of deaths will increase.

It does seem to me that the reactions of health officials and governments is wrong  and that they really should just go back to cocooning  the elder population and vulnerable.  Let the younger people just go on about their business without too many restrictions.  Even at Universities it would seem they might just as well let the students attend lectures and set it up so that the lecturers can teach remotely via video link if they are older.  At least it would be better for young peoples mental health  if they are allowed to get together.  

It is getting to the stage where I think the population need to get used to living with covid being present.  It is said that covid is three times as deadly as flu but people never really batted an eyelid about it being flu season.

In Ireland the medical advisers (NEPHET)  are pushing for a full lockdown (level 5)  this was a jump from level 2   with a couple of places like Dublin on Level 3.  The government rejected this and went for Level 3 nationwide.   I would expect that by school half term they will mover to level 4  due to rising cases.

 

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42 minutes ago, david1111 said:

What lockdown?

No change to the amount of traffic and people around where I am this morning

Just said same thing it was the same round town this morning. M62 is dead though. Lorries and vans that's pretty much it.

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5 minutes ago, Kev40 said:

Just said same thing it was the same round town this morning. M62 is dead though. Lorries and vans that's pretty much it.

I think a few businesses are using loopholes to continue trading such as online order and collect.

Can't blame them, it's their livelihood

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4 minutes ago, david1111 said:

I think a few businesses are using loopholes to continue trading such as online order and collect.

Can't blame them, it's their livelihood

Probably mate. I know I'm doing what needs to be done. It'll be interesting to see what it's like round Manchester. There's no wonder it's been so bad in Lancashire they don't care one bit.

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2 hours ago, Kev40 said:

It's much busier now round Leeds. This is definitely not like last time. 

in Ireland we have been under lockdown for 2 weeks with very good compliance though there is more going on than during the last lockdown. I think people are less afraid and feel they now how to take proper care now.  Numbers are down dramatically   with the 14 day rate falling to 212 per 100000  from well into the 300s.  They are looking to get it down to between 50-100 cases a day in the next 4 weeks.  

The R rate is down to around 0.7 from 1.4 two weeks ago.   It will only work if people keep reducing their contacts

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1 hour ago, philinvicta said:

Pfizer have announced that there vaccine is more than 90%  effective  against Covid and they have applied for emergency approval to start distributing it

 

1 hour ago, Miller26 said:

What a day for humanity! 

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42 minutes ago, Kinkerbells said:

I don’t care about the anti vaxers.

this could potentially give me my life back and when hearing the news today I sat and cried.

#hope!

Im not an anti vaxer im just pointing out that company should not be trusted at face value and you should be careful taking anything that's being rushed out the door 

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Just now, 4houghts said:

Im not an anti vaxer im just pointing out that company should not be trusted at face value and you should be careful taking anything that's being rushed out the door 

I completely agree of course I do but there’s just one glimmer of hope and that’s all I’ve been hanging on. I am slightly worried in how effective it is on someone with connective tissue disease as this heavily messes with the immune system. What I’m saying is they’ve tested this vaccine on healthy patients so have no idea the ones with underlying diseases will actually respond. This is my biggest fear if I’m honest but yet still very hopeful . X

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4 minutes ago, 4houghts said:

Im not an anti vaxer im just pointing out that company should not be trusted at face value and you should be careful taking anything that's being rushed out the door 

That is why it has to be authorised for use by Drug administrations  and results need to be published.  just because it is a covid vaccine it will still go through  certain procedures before it is released.  It will also take a long time to scale it up for large population use.  One thing that is a problem is that it has to be stored at -80c and that will mean large investments. It is unlikley to be widely available for some time but hopefully the use of it in frontline staff together with other cheap  treatments such as Vitamin D will mean covid in the general population will be reduced. You also need two doses so that means the available doses will only treat half that amount of people. I believe the UK has ordered around 30 million doses so far

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