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3 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

I find it interesting though mate and would just like to know out of all the shit that goes on in the world, why someone would have a particular issue with certain streamers. It could be a really good debate to have. 

Personally, I cant stand a lot of them but if I am honest I am also a bit pissed off with myself that I didn't jump on it when it started becoming popular as quite a few make decent money out of it. Not sure how popular I would be online, coupled with the fact that I have banned myself from literally every affiliated casino out there but I would have probably had a go!

If stop and step can do it..................................

He's been on pretty much every forum and been banned from all of them and unfairly in my opinion. But it's hard to gauge where he's coming from when he just goes on about what he hates eg streamers. 

 

As for these streamers well we all have our opinions, mines not a great one to be honest mate especially the newer ones if you like but whilst they earn large amounts of money off it they ain't going to stop. Only the government can ultimately stop all of it. 

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10 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

It always takes him hours to respond, it won’t surprise me if he responds just after midnight 

How long has he been on here  for mate? 

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Just now, Miller26 said:

He's been on pretty much every forum and been banned from all of them and unfairly in my opinion. But it's hard to gauge where he's coming from when he just goes on about what he hates eg streamers. 

 

As for these streamers well we all have our opinions, mines not a great one to be honest mate especially the newer ones if you like but whilst they earn large amounts of money off it they ain't going to stop. Only the government can ultimately stop all of it. 

I think its gone to far for the government to realistically control mate. A streamer could move out of the UK and stream from there. Only by getting the likes of Youtube and Twitter to put a full ban in place would start to make a dent. 

The government missed the boat on it a while ago; a bit like vaping. They never thought it would take off (neither did the tobacco industry) so the government let it slide. Now they have realized how much tax wise they have missed out on lol

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50 minutes ago, Cheryl T said:

If you are going to post on a forum. Share no other interest in anyone else or subject than this obsession with Nick then members will start to question.

However I don’t agree with asking about why people are claiming benefits as that really is no ones business.

The questions around someone’s mental health because they obsessively post are also deeply wrong. Debate yes. Calling or questioning mental health? Come on now 

Nothing more to add than the above points which I find uncomfortable and unwarranted. 
 

 

Hi Cheryl,

Im not sure if you have read the 13 page saga of thread he derailed aside from this one but it is impossible to reason with him on any level if you do not agree with what he thinks.

Playing devil's advocate here but he has been awkward, contradictory and confrontational in his approach. Much of the questioning regarding why he is on benefits is due to statements he had made, particularly regarding not needing money or to work but claiming benefits still while brandishing many other establishments corrupt. In simple terms he is being hypocritical so i can see why people would question it. 

Further, while i appreciate you feel may feel uncomfortable with people questioning his mental health, do you not feel it is a valid question based on his behaviour? You yourself called it an obsession. A lot of people, myself included, have attempted to give him friendly advice only to have it rammed back at us. I personally feel he brings nothing to the forum and if he was banned it would be fine. With that said though, if he stated he suffered from OCD, aspergus or another condition that would explain his behaviour then i would find it easier to emphasise with him. He would probably get cut a lot of a slack by members and plenty of offers of help to which even if it was rebuffed it would be understood. As it is he just appears to be a dick to be honest. Im sure you said previously you have experience with this stuff, possibly through work, so may not like the questions but just trying to point out that there is a positive flip side to it.

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11 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

I think its gone to far for the government to realistically control mate. A streamer could move out of the UK and stream from there. Only by getting the likes of Youtube and Twitter to put a full ban in place would start to make a dent. 

The government missed the boat on it a while ago; a bit like vaping. They never thought it would take off (neither did the tobacco industry) so the government let it slide. Now they have realized how much tax wise they have missed out on lol

Yes I agree to a certain point but if you say banned the advertisement of gambling, it would thus finish the streaming of gambling apart from the few who would do it anyway. 

 

Me like many others have watched this shite for years. I actually used to think it helps people (load of bollocks) and was a good thing as you got say another shot in the giveaways. What bandit is doing is so irresponsible its become dangerous not only to his viewers but to himself.

Paul when he streamed was pretty degenerate but you could see it actually effected him and always slagged off most casinos and never really pushed anything. Sadly these new ones with all there 'look at this great new offer I've got for my players' bullshit has destroyed it. 

 

 

 

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I'm so dizzy....

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Most people make valid points including horseburger. Let hope at least one vulnerable person reads this and is armed with knowledge before they take on the casino world..... I wish I was more clued up 20 years ago that's for sure. 

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21 minutes ago, Miller26 said:

How long has he been on here  for mate? 

A few months I think 

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1 minute ago, VillaLad said:

A few months I think 

So it's been going on that long jesus 

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17 minutes ago, bigbucks1983 said:

Hi Cheryl,

Im not sure if you have read the 13 page saga of thread he derailed aside from this one but it is impossible to reason with him on any level if you do not agree with what he thinks.

Playing devil's advocate here but he has been awkward, contradictory and confrontational in his approach. Much of the questioning regarding why he is on benefits is due to statements he had made, particularly regarding not needing money or to work but claiming benefits still while brandishing many other establishments corrupt. In simple terms he is being hypocritical so i can see why people would question it. 

Further, while i appreciate you feel may feel uncomfortable with people questioning his mental health, do you not feel it is a valid question based on his behaviour? You yourself called it an obsession. A lot of people, myself included, have attempted to give him friendly advice only to have it rammed back at us. I personally feel he brings nothing to the forum and if he was banned it would be fine. With that said though, if he stated he suffered from OCD, aspergus or another condition that would explain his behaviour then i would find it easier to emphasise with him. He would probably get cut a lot of a slack by members and plenty of offers of help to which even if it was rebuffed it would be understood. As it is he just appears to be a dick to be honest. Im sure you said previously you have experience with this stuff, possibly through work, so may not like the questions but just trying to point out that there is a positive flip side to it.

Cheers

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14 minutes ago, bigbucks1983 said:

Hi Cheryl,

Im not sure if you have read the 13 page saga of thread he derailed aside from this one but it is impossible to reason with him on any level if you do not agree with what he thinks.

Playing devil's advocate here but he has been awkward, contradictory and confrontational in his approach. Much of the questioning regarding why he is on benefits is due to statements he had made, particularly regarding not needing money or to work but claiming benefits still while brandishing many other establishments corrupt. In simple terms he is being hypocritical so i can see why people would question it. 

Further, while i appreciate you feel may feel uncomfortable with people questioning his mental health, do you not feel it is a valid question based on his behaviour? You yourself called it an obsession. A lot of people, myself included, have attempted to give him friendly advice only to have it rammed back at us. I personally feel he brings nothing to the forum and if he was banned it would be fine. With that said though, if he stated he suffered from OCD, aspergus or another condition that would explain his behaviour then i would find it easier to emphasise with him. He would probably get cut a lot of a slack by members and plenty of offers of help to which even if it was rebuffed it would be understood. As it is he just appears to be a dick to be honest. Im sure you said previously you have experience with this stuff, possibly through work, so may not like the questions but just trying to point out that there is a positive flip side to it.

Cheers

In all fairness if the guy has Aspergers, MPD, BPD, Complex PTSD etc etc should he need to tell us for us to understand and cut him slack?

Of course it’s a laborious thread that goes on forever and rambles on and on. 

Yes I am with you that at times it derails and he has at times not put his point across well. However some of what he stated is valid,

My only issue is that who are we to ask a member regardless of our thoughts of him or her, like or dislike to declare any form of mental health disorder or reason for claiming benefits.

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2 minutes ago, Miller26 said:

So it's been going on that long jesus 

Mate he used to hijack threads and go on about the same thing without listening to anyone who might disagree with him, he don’t contribute anything to the forum so you can see why people have got pissed off with him. You know yourself we are a very accommodating bunch and there are some very knowledgeable people here who are open to a debate. At the end of the day we’re all different and we all have different thoughts on things and that’s fine but for someone to just spout the same shit every time they post has got people’s backs up I understand his frustrations at certain streamers and what they might or might not do but I don’t want to be reminded of it nearly every day.

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4 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

Mate he used to hijack threads and go on about the same thing without listening to anyone who might disagree with him, he don’t contribute anything to the forum so you can see why people have got pissed off with him. You know yourself we are a very accommodating bunch and there are some very knowledgeable people here who are open to a debate. At the end of the day we’re all different and we all have different thoughts on things and that’s fine but for someone to just spout the same shit every time they post has got people’s backs up I understand his frustrations at certain streamers and what they might or might not do but I don’t want to be reminded of it nearly every day.

That's fair enough mate. I think there needs to be a discussion then whether he needs banning for his own good. People's thoughts? 

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Just now, Miller26 said:

That's fair enough mate. I think there needs to be a discussion then whether he needs banning for his own good. People's thoughts? 

I was talking about that after he started this shit in the first thread, he is here to make drama and he doesnt even know how things work with affiliation or any other marketing business, all he does is stating well known facts about affiliates but he thinks that is some hidden conspiracy.? When you try to explain something he just repeats the post from before or calls you some shit. 

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1 minute ago, Miller26 said:

That's fair enough mate. I think there needs to be a discussion then whether he needs banning for his own good. People's thoughts? 

Tbh mate I’m not 1 for banning people but maybe a discussion with him to maybe contribute more and get involved in other topics like the rest of us.

Ive got nothing against them or anyone else for that matter people are allowed to say what they want but just in more moderation.

There is actually no point whatsoever going over n over n over the same thing. It just bores me to death and tbh makes me not really want to come on here to read the same things everyday. 

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3 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

Tbh mate I’m not 1 for banning people but maybe a discussion with him to maybe contribute more and get involved in other topics like the rest of us.

Ive got nothing against them or anyone else for that matter people are allowed to say what they want but just in more moderation.

There is actually no point whatsoever going over n over n over the same thing. It just bores me to death and tbh makes me not really want to come on here to read the same things everyday. 

Exactly what I said but in picture format lol (well partially) 

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3 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said:

I was talking about that after he started this shit in the first thread, he is here to make drama and he doesnt even know how things work with affiliation or any other marketing business, all he does is stating well known facts about affiliates but he thinks that is some hidden conspiracy.? When you try to explain something he just repeats the post from before or calls you some shit. 

 

3 minutes ago, VillaLad said:

Tbh mate I’m not 1 for banning people but maybe a discussion with him to maybe contribute more and get involved in other topics like the rest of us.

Ive got nothing against them or anyone else for that matter people are allowed to say what they want but just in more moderation.

There is actually no point whatsoever going over n over n over the same thing. It just bores me to death and tbh makes me not really want to come on here to read the same things everyday. 

I can understand people's frustrations then in all honesty but I do see how it can be seen as ganging up on him/her. I know not one person on here is like that but like I say it can look like that. 

 

Lets just hope he engages more 

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I’ve never cared about anything as much as this guy cares about streamers. And it really is a shame. I know plenty of people on here would help him out if he was struggling, and he clearly is. Doesn’t want the help though, would rather sit and think about streamers all day.

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10 minutes ago, Miller26 said:

That's fair enough mate. I think there needs to be a discussion then whether he needs banning for his own good. People's thoughts? 

I think as adults we either choose to engage or not. 
This forum has always been open to it’s fair share of characters. 
I have no interest in going round in circles and the guy has already openly stated he has no interest in anyone else or subject matter.

 There is a block function on here and it’s best for all that have had enough and oh boy can I see your point of view here.

I was merely just stating as I feel quite passionate that no one should need to declare mental illness unless they felt willing to share. 

 

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Just now, Miller26 said:

 

I can understand people's frustrations then in all honesty but I do see how it can be seen as ganging up on him/her. I know not one person on here is like that but like I say it can look like that. 

 

Lets just hope he engages more 

Yea, but it all started with kind words and agreeing with him to some degree about the whole streamers thing but he just doesnt stop and only comes to forum to vent about other streamers. Ofcourse everyone is annoyed now. 

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2 hours ago, Triggered101 said:

I think this thread needs to be deleted. To many throwing their tuppence in just to have a pop at @HorseBurger1989

If people dont want to debate with him, instead of getting personal dont read his posts?‍♂️

Makes no sense that... whenever people try engaging with him on anything that’s not digging out Nick he blanks them lol

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9 minutes ago, Cheryl T said:

In all fairness if the guy has Aspergers, MPD, BPD, Complex PTSD etc etc should he need to tell us for us to understand and cut him slack?

Of course it’s a laborious thread that goes on forever and rambles on and on. 

Yes I am with you that at times it derails and he has at times not put his point across well. However some of what he stated is valid,

My only issue is that who are we to ask a member regardless of our thoughts of him or her, like or dislike to declare any form of mental health disorder or reason for claiming benefits.

To be fair i think regarding benefits, he raised the topic as part of his arguement in a debate on an open forum so its not unreasonable someone asked for more information.

His mental health, which i appreciate is a sensitive subject, was questioned due to his behaviour. Some of his points are valid but he is obssesive, irrational and unreasonable in behaviour. If no one questioned him on it and he did have xyz condition we would all crack on being none the wiser and the level of hostility he is starting to get would continue with no reason to keep trying to help him in anyway etc. However he was questioned and let's say he admitted to xyz condition, im sure he would get a lot more empathy and time of day etc so it would be the better outcome. 

So i respect your opinion but i cant say i agree with it really. Just because something doesn't sit right with you doesnt mean it is wrong and it could in fact greatly help a situation.

Anyway its hypothetical to a degree, personally i think the guy is an asshat until he apologises or im aware of any extenuating circumstances that justify his behaviour.

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@HorseBurger1989 could be anybody, trolling the thread or just needing somebody to talk to. You can see hes been online and would have no doubt read the thread so make of it what you will why he hasn't replied to everyones questions. 

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Posted (edited)

Just been watching this and I did warn he'd start upping the stakes and was shot down. Bare in mind he was a smaller staker only a few months back. now doing £40 stake on DHV a lot more than he use to as well.  

I bet right now we see him doing more of these stakes in 2020 

As I've said multiple times its not one streamer its all of them. Roshtein to Chip to Nick. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Miller26 said:

Anyway is anyone watching Dracula? 

Nah. Been watching Ole's shower at the Emirates. This was a big game years gone, very poor watch these days

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