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1 hour ago, HorseBurger1989 said:

Well of course yeah 

The cops should be dealing with that? but don't do they despite people paying taxes for them to stop it. Corruption in every facet of life from online gambling to the streets. Its a sick world but people say and do fuck all about it. Not even wanting to talk about it never mind actually going out and doing. 

If they wont even stop this filthy casino carry on you've no chance of them going after drug dealers ffs ? to much money to be made and as we know you people are sorely motivated by money ?

 

Terrible reply, you’ve missed every point I was getting at, just a side note money doesn’t motivate me mate and I’ve given my last away to other people who have needed mine more than me on several occasions, I bet you haven’t.

Can I ask why you do not go out to work @HorseBurger1989I understand that for some due to health reasons they cannot and I’m interested to here your answer.

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37 minutes ago, Miller26 said:

Can somebody a little brighter than me, maybe @bigbucks1983 or @andywilliams1187 compile a list of questions for @HorseBurger1989 to answer so we can put this to bed.

Or maybe even @HorseBurger1989 has a full list of questions? Bear in mind not one of us is an affiliate or works for a casino. 

Cheers for what you said mate. I am just trying to understand the whole situation a little bit better. 

I think its  very ironic and hypocritical that someone will jump on streamers (who I am not defending) and say they are corrupt and should be straight and forthcoming with bank statements etc. but then in the same argument say "i am happy to accept benefits, but I dont really need them and can live without them". 

It's not right to preach about injustices of streamers, but at the same time take benefits that are not needed; especially when there are others that do need them and almost everyone who works contributes to the handouts by paying tax. 

Not after an argument - just a healthy debate

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1 minute ago, Triggered101 said:

I think this thread needs to be deleted. To many throwing their tuppence in just to have a pop at @HorseBurger1989

If people dont want to debate with him, instead of getting personal dont read his posts?‍♂️

I'm certainly not getting personal mate and never would. I agree that some have probably got unintentionally personal but a lot have tried to interact with him/her. I agree with some of his points 

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6 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

Cheers for what you said mate. I am just trying to understand the whole situation a little bit better. 

I think its  very ironic and hypocritical that someone will jump on streamers (who I am not defending) and say they are corrupt and should be straight and forthcoming with bank statements etc. but then in the same argument say "i am happy to accept benefits, but I dont really need them and can live without them". 

It's not right to preach about injustices of streamers, but at the same time take benefits that are not needed; especially when there are others that do need them and almost everyone who works contributes to the handouts by paying tax. 

Not after an argument - just a healthy debate

He sort of retraced that I don't need them mate. What he said is that he meant he would just live on the streets if they stopped them. 

 

I know guys  like yourself and bigbucks etc are just trying to help him so big up for that champ. 

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5 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

 

It's not right to preach about injustices of streamers, but at the same time take benefits that are not needed; especially when there are others that do need them and almost everyone who works contributes to the handouts by paying tax. 

 

How has this thread got to questioning him being on benefits? He clearly needs them otherwise he wouldn't be skint.

He possibly feels hard done by. Whilst he gambles and loses his money on the slots, he sees the same people winning. This is why the corruption point comes up alot. 

@HorseBurger1989 have you used one of Nick's affiliate links?

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5 minutes ago, Triggered101 said:

I think this thread needs to be deleted. To many throwing their tuppence in just to have a pop at @HorseBurger1989

If people dont want to debate with him, instead of getting personal dont read his posts?‍♂️

People have tried to accommodate him/her but they never answers anyone’s questions he’s like a stuck record and it’s usually them who starts throwing insults 1st take yesterday for instance they called me an idiot just because they don’t agree with what I said. So it seems to me it’s either there way or the highway there seems to be no reasoning, They have there thoughts on the matter and they are not prepared to change them for shit. 

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2 minutes ago, Triggered101 said:

I think this thread needs to be deleted. To many throwing their tuppence in just to have a pop at @HorseBurger1989

If people dont want to debate with him, instead of getting personal dont read his posts?‍♂️

If you are going to post on a forum. Share no other interest in anyone else or subject than this obsession with Nick then members will start to question.

However I don’t agree with asking about why people are claiming benefits as that really is no ones business.

The questions around someone’s mental health because they obsessively post are also deeply wrong. Debate yes. Calling or questioning mental health? Come on now 

Nothing more to add than the above points which I find uncomfortable and unwarranted. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Triggered101 said:

How has this thread got to questioning him being on benefits? He clearly needs them otherwise he wouldn't be skint.

He possibly feels hard done by. Whilst he gambles and loses his money on the slots, he sees the same people winning. This is why the corruption point comes up alot. 

@HorseBurger1989 have you used one of Nick's affiliate links?

If your on benefits you shouldn’t be gambling.

 

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1 minute ago, Cheryl T said:

If you are going to post on a forum. Share no other interest in anyone else or subject than this obsession with Nick then members will start to question.

However I don’t agree with asking about why people are claiming benefits as that really is no ones business.

The questions around someone’s mental health because they obsessively post are also deeply wrong. Debate yes. Calling or questioning mental health? Come on now 

Nothing more to add than the above points which I find uncomfortable and unwarranted. 
 

 

I agree

welcome back @Cheryl T hope you’ve had a good Christmas and new year 

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Just now, Hacko 1 said:

If your on benefits you shouldn’t be gambling.

 

Bold statement to make which o don’t agree with. If someone is on benefits and they spunk all there benefits gambling your right yes, but if someone is on benefits and puts a fiver on and dies a few footy accas on a Saturday is that wrong? I’d say no

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26 minutes ago, Triggered101 said:

How has this thread got to questioning him being on benefits? He clearly needs them otherwise he wouldn't be skint.

He possibly feels hard done by. Whilst he gambles and loses his money on the slots, he sees the same people winning. This is why the corruption point comes up alot. 

@HorseBurger1989 have you used one of Nick's affiliate links?

Have you read the full thread mate? He has said himself that he doesnt need them. 

I am not questioning the reason as to why he is on them from any sort of status/disability/mental health angle; I am trying to understand how he can say that there is corruption all around and streamers are corrupt, but he is happy to take something he doesnt need. 

If it is a case that he needs them, then I have no objection to anyone using the benefits system, thats what it is there for at the end of the day. 

I want to get an understanding of exactly why he thinks that streamers are corrupt and why he thinks they should provide evidence such as bank statements etc. I play a lot of poker; some people I know have sponsorship deals and do very well out of the game, but the deals that they have with pokerstars etc. are non of my business. I know they get freerolled into live tournaments and some cash games, but if I am in the same tournament and dont win, I dont then go and demand to see their bank statement. 

It would be easier (for me anyway) if @horseburger1989 clarified exactly what he wanted and his reasoning behind it. 

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6 minutes ago, Miller26 said:

Anyway guys Horseburger fudged off so fudge it 

I find it interesting though mate and would just like to know out of all the shit that goes on in the world, why someone would have a particular issue with certain streamers. It could be a really good debate to have. 

Personally, I cant stand a lot of them but if I am honest I am also a bit pissed off with myself that I didn't jump on it when it started becoming popular as quite a few make decent money out of it. Not sure how popular I would be online, coupled with the fact that I have banned myself from literally every affiliated casino out there but I would have probably had a go!

If stop and step can do it..................................

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3 minutes ago, andywilliams1187 said:

I find it interesting though mate and would just like to know out of all the shit that goes on in the world, why someone would have a particular issue with certain streamers. It could be a really good debate to have. 

Personally, I cant stand a lot of them but if I am honest I am also a bit pissed off with myself that I didn't jump on it when it started becoming popular as quite a few make decent money out of it. Not sure how popular I would be online, coupled with the fact that I have banned myself from literally every affiliated casino out there but I would have probably had a go!

If stop and step can do it..................................

He's been on pretty much every forum and been banned from all of them and unfairly in my opinion. But it's hard to gauge where he's coming from when he just goes on about what he hates eg streamers. 

 

As for these streamers well we all have our opinions, mines not a great one to be honest mate especially the newer ones if you like but whilst they earn large amounts of money off it they ain't going to stop. Only the government can ultimately stop all of it. 

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Just now, Miller26 said:

He's been on pretty much every forum and been banned from all of them and unfairly in my opinion. But it's hard to gauge where he's coming from when he just goes on about what he hates eg streamers. 

 

As for these streamers well we all have our opinions, mines not a great one to be honest mate especially the newer ones if you like but whilst they earn large amounts of money off it they ain't going to stop. Only the government can ultimately stop all of it. 

I think its gone to far for the government to realistically control mate. A streamer could move out of the UK and stream from there. Only by getting the likes of Youtube and Twitter to put a full ban in place would start to make a dent. 

The government missed the boat on it a while ago; a bit like vaping. They never thought it would take off (neither did the tobacco industry) so the government let it slide. Now they have realized how much tax wise they have missed out on lol

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50 minutes ago, Cheryl T said:

If you are going to post on a forum. Share no other interest in anyone else or subject than this obsession with Nick then members will start to question.

However I don’t agree with asking about why people are claiming benefits as that really is no ones business.

The questions around someone’s mental health because they obsessively post are also deeply wrong. Debate yes. Calling or questioning mental health? Come on now 

Nothing more to add than the above points which I find uncomfortable and unwarranted. 
 

 

Hi Cheryl,

Im not sure if you have read the 13 page saga of thread he derailed aside from this one but it is impossible to reason with him on any level if you do not agree with what he thinks.

Playing devil's advocate here but he has been awkward, contradictory and confrontational in his approach. Much of the questioning regarding why he is on benefits is due to statements he had made, particularly regarding not needing money or to work but claiming benefits still while brandishing many other establishments corrupt. In simple terms he is being hypocritical so i can see why people would question it. 

Further, while i appreciate you feel may feel uncomfortable with people questioning his mental health, do you not feel it is a valid question based on his behaviour? You yourself called it an obsession. A lot of people, myself included, have attempted to give him friendly advice only to have it rammed back at us. I personally feel he brings nothing to the forum and if he was banned it would be fine. With that said though, if he stated he suffered from OCD, aspergus or another condition that would explain his behaviour then i would find it easier to emphasise with him. He would probably get cut a lot of a slack by members and plenty of offers of help to which even if it was rebuffed it would be understood. As it is he just appears to be a dick to be honest. Im sure you said previously you have experience with this stuff, possibly through work, so may not like the questions but just trying to point out that there is a positive flip side to it.

Cheers

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