Miller26 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Denman said: They might be, I don't know. Perhaps there are legitimate trustworthy casino's based there. Again, I do not know, as unless they hold a UKGC License too, which I am sure some probably do, I cannot play there. What are you doing giving them your contact details though? Fuck me, you're going to end up like Hotshots. I didn’t mate , think they must have been sold on from a casino I signed up to in the past . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrightmeow Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Denman said: I am sure this is going to be disputed here. 21casino are often lauded here. Perhaps rightly so in some regard. I recall previously watching "CasinoDaddy" perhaps a year or two ago now, who at the time were affiliated with 21casino or one of the sister sites in the same group. Everyday they were playing with huge "no deposit bonuses". That all seemed rather fake to me too. So I think even the more (arguably) "reputable" casino's offer such services. I watched them too and they only had one big no deposit once a week with a ton of wagering and they told everyone that is no deposit bonus and what is all about with it they just got a good offer from casino to play there just like they could give deposit bonuses they were big enough to get a better deal I guess. They are not fake money streamers and they showed deposits\cashouts all the time and even made deposits on stream from skrill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, crazyrightmeow said: I watched them too and they only had one big no deposit once a week with a ton of wagering and they told everyone that is no deposit bonus and what is all about with it they just got a good offer from casino to play there just like they could give deposit bonuses they were big enough to get a better deal I guess. They are not fake money streamers and they showed deposits\cashouts all the time and even made deposits on stream from skrill. You might be right on many things you have said. But playing casino games with money that is not your own, that you didn't deposit is just the same as playing with demo money, no? There is no risk, probably minimal if any chance of reward. It is just the casino giving you a means to provide the audience more entertainment in the hope that it leads to increased sign ups. Its not a criticism of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrightmeow Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Just now, Denman said: You might be right on many things you have said. But playing casino games with money that is not your own, that you didn't deposit is just the same as playing with demo money, no? There is no risk, probably minimal if any chance of reward. It is just the casino giving you a means to provide the audience more entertainment in the hope that it leads to increased sign ups. Its not a criticism of them. Well imo its not the same since you can cashout if you clear that huge wager amount. Few years ago many casinos gave regular players 25-100€ no deposits here and there and I dont see a problem for that, they gave you at least a shot of some free money. It would be different if they would stream with no deposit every day and lie about it like these play money streamers do. I get your point and I agree that for casino its all about getting more players in ofcourse but since they were opened about it its a no brainer to take and play with it I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markymark Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Denman said: You might be right on many things you have said. But playing casino games with money that is not your own, that you didn't deposit is just the same as playing with demo money, no? There is no risk, probably minimal if any chance of reward. It is just the casino giving you a means to provide the audience more entertainment in the hope that it leads to increased sign ups. Its not a criticism of them. Agree mate, its really an advert for the casino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0tsh0t87 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 33 minutes ago, Denman said: Okay. That really makes sense, I can certainly picture all of those LeoVegas streamers for example cutting ties and removing one of their sources of income from their pockets because they think Roshtein is a fraud. I can definitely picture that. Then if he went and became an affiliate for every other site they are affiliated with, they would cut ties with all of those too and probably just give up and find a new career. As for them praising someone like The Bandit who demonstrates how gambling shouldn't be promoted so frequently, well these people you were associating with there are certainly intellectuals of the highest order, they probably left the Affiliation Conference early in order to make time to see The Royal Academy Summer Exhibition! What a coincidence is it not another person who has been called out lately the bandit and Paul and Hackz both sticking up for him and saying people are impressed by him...... The bandit never responded to the soccer million thin g on here because he's on holiday yet he posts multiple tweets about gambling and done a give away while away but he couldn't come on here and put his side of the story up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, crazyrightmeow said: Well imo its not the same since you can cashout if you clear that huge wager amount. Few years ago many casinos gave regular players 25-100€ no deposits here and there and I dont see a problem for that, they gave you at least a shot of some free money. It would be different if they would stream with no deposit every day and lie about it like these play money streamers do. I get your point and I agree that for casino its all about getting more players in ofcourse but since they were opened about it its a no brainer to take and play with it I think. So, to be clear. The topic of real vs fake for me is not so interesting in itself. I do not believe using real money gives some form of godly credence to your affiliation link. I am personally opposed to affiliation as a whole and how gambling is promoted. Some people playing with presumably their own money promote gambling irresponsibly in my opinion. Some people presumably using fake money may actually promote gambling somewhat responsibly.... and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrightmeow Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Denman said: So, to be clear. The topic of real vs fake for me is not so interesting in itself. I do not believe using real money gives some form of godly credence to your affiliation link. I am personally opposed to affiliation as a whole and how gambling is promoted. Some people playing with presumably their own money promote gambling irresponsibly in my opinion. Some people presumably using fake money may actually promote gambling somewhat responsibly.... and vice versa. I understand what you mean. Well for me Its more of the issue that fake money streamers lie and tell that they play with real money so they are basicly a fraud. If you look from the affiliation point of view its all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacko Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 We've asked Paul time and time again to answer everyone's doubts on affiliation, he's put himself and his money on the line opening this can of worms. Stick £50 off my money on top of the 2 grand. We will get to the bottom of the affiliation question once and for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garryboy001 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 41 minutes ago, h0tsh0t87 said: What a coincidence is it not another person who has been called out lately the bandit and Paul and Hackz both sticking up for him and saying people are impressed by him...... The bandit never responded to the soccer million thin g on here because he's on holiday yet he posts multiple tweets about gambling and done a give away while away but he couldn't come on here and put his side of the story up You have got a proper hard on for the bandit have you not? If you don't like what he does or how he promotes things then don't watch ffs but it's clear for anyone to see you watch and read everything he posts. Obsession isn't a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy from the hood Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Rocknrollaaaa - Fake ( DaveSlots Diss Track ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Chair Slots Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It would have been nice to have had some context in the video as to exactly WHY streaming with casino money is a big no-no. Of course we all know, but a casual viewer may not know how much it is fucking the casino section, how much it puts two fingers up to genuine streamers, how much it is taking the piss out of the affiliation business and how much it boils @Rocknrolla 's piss. Without any of that it just looks like a bit of a rant. And how Roshtein got away without a mention is beyond me. Bet him and his million Twitch viewers couldn't believe their luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacko Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Antonin said: That's a belter of a comment, I bet every time his missus takes her bra off our Russell lads thinking "I could have renewed my season ticket and bought a new set of golf clubs for that", just think! The gift that keeps on giving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacko Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Antonin said: I bought my wife a pair of slippers and a vibrator, told her if she didn't like the slippers then she can go f##k herself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chair Slots said: It would have been nice to have had some context in the video as to exactly WHY streaming with casino money is a big no-no. Of course we all know, but a casual viewer may not know how much it is fucking the casino section, how much it puts two fingers up to genuine streamers, how much it is taking the piss out of the affiliation business and how much it boils @Rocknrolla 's piss. Without any of that it just looks like a bit of a rant. And how Roshtein got away without a mention is beyond me. Bet him and his million Twitch viewers couldn't believe their luck. Go on then. Wheres the definitive proof that he is fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Denman said: Go on then. Wheres the definitive proof that he is fake? I didn't say he was. But then again I don't need a weatherman to tell me it's pissing it down. Having said that though, where's the definitive proof Davo is fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 This is right now on Twitch. Don't get me wrong I'm sure Azozo16984 and Azuza23876 are really enjoying the stream but in my opinion if you allow fakeness in one area you allow it in other areas too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Man Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 There almost will NEVER be definitive proof unless you can hack his phone and his email, which I wouldn't recommend. I really fucking doubt if Davo was fake, which I don't know if he is or not and don't really care, any of us could magically conjure up the 100% facts that can't be debated at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacko Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Everytime I'm on you tube I see guys like Chipmunk and Rothstein streaming, especially the latter who seems to stream round the clock. How can it be mathematically possible to remain solvent over a long period of time?. It doesn't make financial sense to me if they were playing out their own pockets. Let's take how often the conventional steamers we all watch stream.. Bandit - Normally every Sunday, used to be twice a week. Rolla - Once a month maybe 2 month Jimbo - Once a week, fortnight? Craig - Periodically Chipmunk - Daily Roshtein - Constatntly Fruityslots - Don't go there! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy from the hood Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Love is a gamble uses fake money aswell. Those 0.60p spins are outrageous , and they need to be stopped. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quick Man Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Christ, 60p? They could get a whole can of Irn-Bru for that. OUTRAGEOUS behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev40 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I have no proof but i feel I'm an excellent reader of people and i firmly believe that there are very very few streamers who are legit. The acting is reminiscent to what i have seen a thousand times. They remind me so much of watching colleagues from all over Europe lie through their teeth day in day out. Pretending people had had a big win. Believe me when i say I've seen the best in blagging and most of these streamers are not a patch on the people I've seen. There are only 2 i believe 100% and we know who they are. I see all the signs the tricks and re actions from these streamers and it's plain to see they are fake. There are more fake streamers than you realise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0tsh0t87 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Garryboy001 said: You have got a proper hard on for the bandit have you not? If you don't like what he does or how he promotes things then don't watch ffs but it's clear for anyone to see you watch and read everything he posts. Obsession isn't a good thing You got a hard for me for god sake Every post I make you need to comment or react to I don't even know who you are your just some guy who keeps popping up when I post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev40 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Quick Man said: There almost will NEVER be definitive proof unless you can hack his phone and his email, which I wouldn't recommend. I really fucking doubt if Davo was fake, which I don't know if he is or not and don't really care, any of us could magically conjure up the 100% facts that can't be debated at all. I care because it's a lie and if just one naive 18 year old new to online gambling loses thousands of pounds trying to replicate these fake big wins then what he's doing is wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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