Jok3st3r Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Having stumbled across casino streamers, maybe 2 years ago, I became a bit obsessed to begin with. Watching all the different streamers and not knowing anything about affiliation or streaming I landed with 3 that I enjoyed the most. Them being, Rocknrolla (obviously), the Bandit (again, obviously) and finally Roshtein (maybe not so obvious). I have seen and heard comments relating to Roshtein which don't put him in the best of lights. Things like he is a scammer, doesn't play with real money. Streamers (not rolla or bandit afaik) have said they could 'tell you a thing or two about him' and how they can prove he's a scammer but I have never seen this proof. I guess I was hoping to get other people's views on him as I believe he is real, plays with his own money although receiving ridiculous bonuses with ridiculous wagering. He shows deposits and withdrawals. His reactions, although over the top sometimes, seem real but in the back of my mind I am doubting my intelligence and feel as though I may be being taken for a bit of a twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Theres a few posts about him on the forum already. I think more than anything there are polarising opinions on him due to his flamboyant personality. I think the most recent is in "Off-Topic". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chair Slots Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just his CGI tank is enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I want to suggest that Paul gets his own tank and such, but he struggles with resizing his browser windows at times, so that might be a bit optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Denman said: I want to suggest that Paul gets his own tank and such, but he struggles with resizing his browser windows at times, so that might be a bit optimistic. Brilliant.. but the only tank I can see Paul getting is an oxygen one, for when he wins in his old age!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jok3st3r said: Having stumbled across casino streamers, maybe 2 years ago, I became a bit obsessed to begin with. Watching all the different streamers and not knowing anything about affiliation or streaming I landed with 3 that I enjoyed the most. Them being, Rocknrolla (obviously), the Bandit (again, obviously) and finally Roshtein (maybe not so obvious). I have seen and heard comments relating to Roshtein which don't put him in the best of lights. Things like he is a scammer, doesn't play with real money. Streamers (not rolla or bandit afaik) have said they could 'tell you a thing or two about him' and how they can prove he's a scammer but I have never seen this proof. I guess I was hoping to get other people's views on him as I believe he is real, plays with his own money although receiving ridiculous bonuses with ridiculous wagering. He shows deposits and withdrawals. His reactions, although over the top sometimes, seem real but in the back of my mind I am doubting my intelligence and feel as though I may be being taken for a bit of a twat. The basis of potential "doubt" around YT celebs like Roshtein, is not so much are they doing X but how are they doing X... As a simple example of this, look at some of the massive donations made to some gaming channel players, who then go onto make even bigger donations via a mixup of paradox youtube videos, some of these amount to $00,000's per pop.. there is a cycle of "money" that is sent, deposited, resent, donated and then rinse and repeated all over... For a real honest answer, one can always delve a bit deeper, into how the streamers are connected and how certain streams contain $ that is OPM (other peoples money!) maybe the deposits you see on his streams and the massive amounts he looses / wins, are in fact not his and are stakeholders monies, that are swirled around various accounts on and off line!!! After all, there is NOWAY on earth he has paid state taxes on his "profits" from those amounts or the IRS or HMRC would be on him like a shot! I actually find him quite amusing to watch, but not to listen to.. eg: could very easily listen to "RollaFM" or "BanditCast" audio, but with Roshtein, would get very annoying just listening to his voice with no video action!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Enjoy watching Rolla and the fella Bandit and found both them by discovering a guy called Sodapoppin, i love Soda's rants as he just makes me laugh and some of Bandits are funny too But Id happily take an angle grinder to Roshtein and may even do this one day on live stream but just for entertainment, Obviously! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bangers said: Enjoy watching Rolla and the fella Bandit and found both them by discovering a guy called Sodapoppin, i love Soda's rants as he just makes me laugh and some of Bandits are funny too But Id happily take an angle grinder to Roshtein and may even do this one day on live stream but just for entertainment, Obviously! Sodapopin! Not seen or heard of him Bngrs so off to have a look! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Funny guy and i like Sarcastic sense of humor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bangers said: Funny guy and i like Sarcastic sense of humor Used to watch sodapoppin a lot until he seemed to stop gambling. His streams were just gaming so stopped watching him. He made so much money from donations it was unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jok3st3r Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 38 minutes ago, Denman said: Theres a few posts about him on the forum already. I think more than anything there are polarising opinions on him due to his flamboyant personality. I think the most recent is in "Off-Topic". Thanks Denman. I have just read your most excellently written views on him and pretty much what I wanted to convey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 minute ago, david1111 said: Used to watch sodapoppin a lot until he seemed to stop gambling. His streams were just gaming so stopped watching him. He made so much money from donations it was unreal I like him and love the rants, he's good entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1111 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Just now, Bangers said: I like him and love the rants, he's good entertainment Yeah, it was definately entertaining. Do you remember when he won Big as in 10k he always used to say that's a fucking hot tub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownman24 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 51 minutes ago, Jok3st3r said: Having stumbled across casino streamers, maybe 2 years ago, I became a bit obsessed to begin with. Watching all the different streamers and not knowing anything about affiliation or streaming I landed with 3 that I enjoyed the most. Them being, Rocknrolla (obviously), the Bandit (again, obviously) and finally Roshtein (maybe not so obvious). I have seen and heard comments relating to Roshtein which don't put him in the best of lights. Things like he is a scammer, doesn't play with real money. Streamers (not rolla or bandit afaik) have said they could 'tell you a thing or two about him' and how they can prove he's a scammer but I have never seen this proof. I guess I was hoping to get other people's views on him as I believe he is real, plays with his own money although receiving ridiculous bonuses with ridiculous wagering. He shows deposits and withdrawals. His reactions, although over the top sometimes, seem real but in the back of my mind I am doubting my intelligence and feel as though I may be being taken for a bit of a twat. He’s not a bit of me but look at his views, each to their own I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, david1111 said: Yeah, it was definately entertaining. Do you remember when he won Big as in 10k he always used to say that's a fucking hot tub. Yeh mate Or i was at Disneyland AND YOU FCUKED ME!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solario333 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bangers said: I like him and love the rants, he's good entertainment This man is a verbal public toilet..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bangers said: Funny guy and i like Sarcastic sense of humor Live chat comment of the day goes to... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Solario333 said: This man is a verbal public toilet..... Very tame to a few Glasgow building sites I've been On in my time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jok3st3r Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangers said: Funny guy and i like Sarcastic sense of humor Dramatic much. He's the American Roshtein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocknrolla Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 @Jok3st3r Without going into too much detail as my ass likes to normally remain firmly on the fence with things like this, the main issue that I have is his past when he didn't take those big bonuses. There were so many holes in his play, a few examples - Never showed deposits, the screen never showed 'thankyou for depositing' after his deposits, he played on a dodgy site, he never took 400% bonuses when they were on offer, he never replied or provided proof when called out on forums, it was proven he used viewbots, when people deposit without a bonus it takes 10 seconds yet for him often it would take minutes with a load of excuses for this (there are videos on youtube about this hole), someone worked out he lost over 100k in a week and when winning 30k he cried with joy anyone doing high stakes like that and losing that amount isn't going to be that emotional so his reactions to things were off. Theres even more than that but its just infuriating as I actually find him entertaining but it would have taken 2mins to prove your play and if it was real why would you not have and shove it in the face of all those accusing?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUKHackz Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Lets not forget he filed bankrupt as Dazza G showed in a video, pretty big stakes for someone with no money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirbetsalot Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I watch his streams and enjoy them while knowing all the comments about him, that it could be all fake. At the end of the day it's not my money and I can't prove that any streamer online is 'legit', even though I'm 99% sure Rolla and Bandit are. Each to their own I say but don't let it fool you into thinking slots can be profitable because they are a black hole imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangers Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) As individuals we will always land on different tastes and appeals, I once watched Roshtein for about 20 mins and he just wasn't for me, everything in the short time i watched was WAY OTT and he was just trying far to hard, it was like watching a child kick and scream for attention, his manner was burning my eyes and giving me a headache If someone else likes him or enjoys his style of approach then fair enough As I've said before when i joined this site i wasn't educated on affiliation, i understand a lot more on it now but it also seems to be going up in levels that I'm not comfortable with. Edited November 15, 2018 by Bangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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