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The way the wheel spins and stops looks absolutely 100% totally..... Legit. Yet I think it is rigged. You get dozens of one's and twos with couple fiver and then more dozens of one's... Out of nowhere the wheel goes crazy and stops on 3 40 in 20 spins, couple 20, and two Multiplayer with loads of green numbers in the mix. 

On other occasions the number 1 yellow get absolutely vanished and you can not see it at all, all the numbers are 2 or 5 or 10s for long period of spins. 

Can we safety assume Dreamcatcher can be the extreme game where it can produce one sections of numbers over and over again? Example you have seen 10 reds on roulette or 10 times dragon... Well I think dreamcatcher can beat that by producing ones and twos for more times and more often. If you add possibility of 2x and 7x things suddenly look promising. 

The only issue is that you will win small over your bet. And few bad spins will quickly erase your profit from 10 succesfull spins and even put you on minus. It's simular to covering on say 28 numbers on roullete. But we all know roulette and magnets.. And I think patterns are less likely on roulette. 

This is boring for heavy gambler but for small profit with small bets I think sounds good. 

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Interesting stuff, so are you saying that with small wagers, over an extremely long period of time, that the wheel will eventually give the player a ROI ?

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I dont beleive dreamcatcher  is rigged.

I have only ever seen what appears to be legit spins and nothing out of the ordinary.

 

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40 minutes ago, david1111 said:

I dont beleive dreamcatcher  is rigged.

I have only ever seen what appears to be legit spins and nothing out of the ordinary.

 

Yes spins are clean, but that's what they want you to see and think. Basically invisible. The outcome numbers are what it gives it away. Notice how every dealer when changes old one, starts to talk, well I had bunch of 40, couple 2x 7x my last session.. Giving the player hope for another big win. Dealer constantly makes friends with audinese.. That's very obvious on specific, exclusive for small casinos blackjack tables.. Ooh you would had perfect pairs, why don't you place bets there don't you know its good for you.. Oh dealer have an ace, you better get insurrence... Both insurrence and sidebets gives casinos more advantage. I said sidebets are bad for player what you talk about, and he started to make excuses, noo if you hit once you will hit more, cuz you are lucky.. oMG... 

Back to dreamcatcher. I believe they control speed of wheel. With invisible boost for viewer here in there during the spin, they can make what an original spin would land on 1 yellow, to land 3 sectors further for 40 red. Its the simular  effect that a spaceship can cause an asteroid to change its direction by simply flying next to it giving it tiny, tiny boost in one directions over and over again. and by that to miss earth.. 

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1 hour ago, Poker said:

Interesting stuff, so are you saying that with small wagers, over an extremely long period of time, that the wheel will eventually give the player a ROI ?

 I'm saying on right moment you can bet on only 1 and 2 for many spins. Just made some profit that way in dozen of spins. Or if you joined with many 1 and 2, just wait until starts spinning high numbers only. Does not that often, but enough times to made me notice it and to  make some profit and share this. 

I see streamers comes, takes a look and goes all in on 1 or 2 or bets on 10 20 40 without really any plan just pure luck. 

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Is not just one time, seen this before.. Its too odd not to notice pattern or whatever it is is unnatural. But strange things happen without reason... You might try to take advantage of it

Maybe it's normal.. Maybe not. 

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We cannot know for sure the veracity of any statement about the operations of Dreamcatcher, but on the evidence of chance it may be probable that spins follow a programme that is being manipulated by a computer,in ways we have not seen. 

All online games are suspect purely because the regulation is so lax,and the greed of online casinos so great. 

So we just take our chance .......and run with the cash if we win.computers have overtaken our lives and determine many outcomes in our day to day living so its clear that gambling has not gone unaffected by the incredible speed that can be delivered to online decisions.  

Loss is delivered free of charge Instantly.......Just like a takeaway meal.

 

 

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Its a bit offtopic maybe - but this video made me wonder the same.

I know the excuse for the game not having a flapper etc, but still, it could be motorised by an RNG (as the makers of this game, playtech, at the time explained). They took off the game for months, and now its back. With flapper, and people still thing its done with and RNGm which could be very possible. I wouldn't ever spend a penny there.

 

Coming back to dreamcatcher then. Not sure if its all rigged. Sometimes i get the feeling that when a high number is incoming you can see during the spin that its slightly sped up, or slightly slowed down. But that could be just my feeling. 

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1 minute ago, h0tsh0t87 said:

When you watch dream catcher sometimes the flapper seems lose and other times it seems tight 

I think they just simply adjust a screw or something like that. On Topwheel Treasures (the casumo exclusive variant) the slapper is waaaaay more loose than on Dream Catcher. Not sure why though.

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26 minutes ago, h0tsh0t87 said:

When you watch dream catcher sometimes the flapper seems lose and other times it seems tight 

23 minutes ago, MikeysSlots said:

I think they just simply adjust a screw or something like that. On Topwheel Treasures (the casumo exclusive variant) the slapper is waaaaay more loose than on Dream Catcher. Not sure why though.

They have 2 different flappers, you'll see now and again they go for a break for 5 or 10 mins and the game is unavailable, this is where they switch the flapper 

 

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1 minute ago, MrUKHackz said:

They have 2 different flappers, you'll see now and again they go for a break for 5 or 10 mins and the game is unavailable, this is where they switch the flapper 

 

That could explain. But i do wonder why they would switch it. Or is it like tight in the beginning and then wears down?

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45 minutes ago, MrUKHackz said:

They have 2 different flappers, you'll see now and again they go for a break for 5 or 10 mins and the game is unavailable, this is where they switch the flapper 

 

I thought that because somethimes it sticks to a number then when I go back later on it will suddenly slide past 2-3 numbers 

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1 hour ago, MikeysSlots said:

That could explain. But i do wonder why they would switch it. Or is it like tight in the beginning and then wears down?

I think its just similar to when they spin the roulette wheel slow and then fast, just to stop any patterns etc

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1 minute ago, MrUKHackz said:

I think its just similar to when they spin the roulette wheel slow and then fast, just to stop any patterns etc

Sounds odd if the wheel would be driven by a motor as in the video. If not, then it might make sense - but then still you got the problem of the dealers spinning from each other side of the wheel after each spin... that should take away patterns?

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26 minutes ago, MikeysSlots said:

Sounds odd if the wheel would be driven by a motor as in the video. If not, then it might make sense - but then still you got the problem of the dealers spinning from each other side of the wheel after each spin... that should take away patterns?

After seeing those videos of the fault where it just kept spinning and spinning and not losing momentum I don't trust it anyway

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Just now, MrUKHackz said:

After seeing those videos of the fault where it just kept spinning and spinning and not losing momentum I don't trust it anyway

That could be because maybe its really centered? but not sure about that tho

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3 minutes ago, MikeysSlots said:

That could be because maybe its really centered? but not sure about that tho

no it lost NO momentum, you know like there's zero gravity, @Blampy here makes amazing bearings and however good they are you will lose momentum, thats just physics 

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1 minute ago, MrUKHackz said:

no it lost NO momentum, you know like there's zero gravity, @Blampy here makes amazing bearings and however good they are you will lose momentum, thats just physics 

did anyone look at the frames clearly or? maybe it slowed down a little? (just thinking)

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1 minute ago, MikeysSlots said:

did anyone look at the frames clearly or? maybe it slowed down a little? (just thinking)

yes several of us did, @Nicola examined it at super slow speed and so did I

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55 minutes ago, MikeysSlots said:

But could it be an RNG then so its still ''random'' @MrUKHackz?

I guess it could, as far as I know Evolution haven't made a statement about the game so I can't say how it works, I just don't play it!

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